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Old 05-13-2021, 04:21 PM   #12085
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Yeah, there's a lot of luck in hockey generally - but there is some pretty consistent pieces that win Stanley Cups and they overwhelmingly come from home grown top-3 draft picks.

2020: Stamkos (1st), Hedman (2nd)
2019: Outlier - Pietrangelo (4th)
2018: Ovechkin (1st), Backstrom (4th)
2017: Crosby (1st), Malkin (2nd), Fleury (1st)
2016: Crosby (1st), Malkin (2nd), Fleury (1st)
2015: Kane (1st), Toews (3rd)
2014: Doughty (2nd)
2013: Kane (1st), Toews (3rd)
2012: Doughty (2nd)
2011: Seguin (2nd)
2010: Kane (1st), Toews (3rd)
2009: Crosby (1st), Malkin (2nd), Fleury (1st)
2008: Outlier - (Lidstrom, Zetterberg, Datsyuk)
2007: Outlier (Pronger, Niedermayer, Selanne)
2006: Staal (2nd)

*Introduction of Salary Cap*

2005: No Stanley Cup Champion
2004: Lecavalier (1st)
2003: Niedermayer (3rd)

After you acquire those top three draft picks, you still need to be one of the best managed teams in the league to actually win something. If you're one of the best managed teams in hockey, but don't have those picks, you unfortunately don't win the Stanley Cup. As a basis, you need at least one top-3 pick, and you also need to be lucky enough or have planned well enough to actually be bottoming out in a strong draft year...which is why I've been so pro-tank as of late, because 2022 and 2023 are the right years to do it.

Tanking and rebuilding cannot overcome incompetent management though. Although the Oilers are even showing signs they may prove that tanking can overcome incompetence...

Do you think this fanbase would be patient enough to wait 14 years after drafting 1st to win the cup with that player? Tampa waited 12-13 years after their high picks to win the cup and Stamkos played 1 game. Their best forwards are 2nd and 3rd round picks from 11 and 14.

Based on the patience of this fanbase (look at the Tkachuk hate right now) I don’t see how anyone will have the patience they claim to have now. Edmonton is not proving tanking overcomes incompetence they got lucky to get a player that comes around once in a decade.

Let’s not give Edmonton or Toronto too much credit here neither team has done anything yet
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