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Old 05-13-2021, 04:13 PM   #12084
Vinny01
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Originally Posted by ComixZone View Post
They were drafting top 10 out of incompetence, not a plan.

"Drafting top 10" also is not a focused rebuild. They were spending to the cap every year in an attempt to compete, and failing to do so. Kind of like what the Flames are doing now - and when you do that, all you do is continually mortgage the future (like we've done) and never get the opportunity to actually build a contending team.

To the scenario you laid out - No, that is not a rebuild. That's the baseline for competent management. Giordano is a 38 year old on an expiring contract, and Gaudreau is one year away from free agency so you better get something for him if you can't extend him.

"Top 10 picks" is not the base for a good rebuild. That's what we did last time, and look where that got us (absolutely nowhere). We mortgaged the future, we spent to the cap every season, and we built a team not worth maintaining.
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I am confused sorry. The 5th pick the Leafs got for tanking to draft for Marner is different than the 5th overall pick they earned for trying to win in 2012 and drafting Rielly?

Is it just telling fans you plan to suck instead of telling them you want to win?

The Leafs gave Burke the ability to rebuild the team and he drafted Schenn 5th, Kadri 7th and traded his next 2 1st for a guy picked 5th 3 years before the deal and that is where it went off the rails but what other moves were made to mortgage their future?

All they did when Shanahan came in was trade Kessel for futures which didn’t get them much, and then dump Phaneuf. In 2015 they pick Marner and got lucky in 16 and picked Matthews.

I don’t see how that is different than the Flames letting Gio go to Seattle, trade Gaudreau, tank for 2 years and hopefully draft High next year and luck into Bedard the following year. But that is not a rebuild? But what the Leafs did in 14-16 is considered a quick rebuild?
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