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Originally Posted by Bingo
Who are these elite analytics players he's chased after? Don't most players like that have obvious positive impacts beyond analytics?
Players acquired by Trelving:
Hamilton - terrible advanced stats before he got to Calgary. Solid in Calgary and Carolina since.
Lindholm - solid in Carolina, solid in Calgary. Isn't he what his advanced stats say he is?
Hanifin - 2 out of 3 years in Carolina he had below average metrics
Ryan - Good in Carolina, good in Calgary. His game is what his metrics suggest he is.
Hamonic - didn't have great underlying numbers on Long Island, wasn't brought in for those reasons clearly
Neal - numbers were coming off in Vegas, before he signed in Calgary
Bottom line you want players that have shot volume, that means they're in the offensive zone more than they're in their own zone. But I don't see any evidence that Treliving acquired players based on simple corsi numbers.
The Flames lack game breakers and individual talent, but the teams that have those players all picked in the top 5-8 players of deep drafts. Calgary's one shot at that was Sam Bennett.
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I agree with what both of you are saying. Taking a step back...why have we been spending at the cap 90% of the time since the cap came in if we are not a contender? Seems counter intuitive. Also outside of drafting at the top, the Flames have been short changing their scouting staff with the number of picks for over a decade. When we were successful in the 80s and early 90s we had more picks in each draft.