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Old 05-10-2021, 03:40 PM   #22
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Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper View Post
Haven't the Flames always had really good advanced statistics since the start of the GG era? The Flames are the Corsi Kings of the NHL, they're basically top 5 or top 10 every year. But they've been a failure of a team because Treliving has constantly chased after elite analytics players who can put up high shot volumes but have zero finish. The sample size and data sets are quite large at this point and I think it's a more than fair conclusion to draw.

Based on what I've seen over the Treliving era, very few players on this team have one shot scoring capability or the talent to create their own high quality shot. Until this organization starts looking at things differently, they won't be doing anything differently.
Who are these elite analytics players he's chased after? Don't most players like that have obvious positive impacts beyond analytics?

Players acquired by Trelving:

Hamilton - terrible advanced stats before he got to Calgary. Solid in Calgary and Carolina since.

Lindholm - solid in Carolina, solid in Calgary. Isn't he what his advanced stats say he is?

Hanifin - 2 out of 3 years in Carolina he had below average metrics

Ryan - Good in Carolina, good in Calgary. His game is what his metrics suggest he is.

Hamonic - didn't have great underlying numbers on Long Island, wasn't brought in for those reasons clearly

Neal - numbers were coming off in Vegas, before he signed in Calgary

Bottom line you want players that have shot volume, that means they're in the offensive zone more than they're in their own zone. But I don't see any evidence that Treliving acquired players based on simple corsi numbers.

The Flames lack game breakers and individual talent, but the teams that have those players all picked in the top 5-8 players of deep drafts. Calgary's one shot at that was Sam Bennett.
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