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Originally Posted by New Era
Come on photon, that's quite the display of arrogance. You don't conclude "anything," "without proof," but have that audacity to dismiss the experience of the individuals involved in the events AND the evidence submitted in support of them, because you don't like their evidence.
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I don't dismiss their experiences, I've had similar experiences. I dismiss their claims that it's evidence of phenomenon beyond our knowledge or capability.
The default state of ALL claims is false until they've been demonstrated otherwise. That's how science works. No one gets special treatment because they're an 'expert'.
I'm not saying to not investigate further, I've said many times that there needs to be more data.
The rest of your post about groups and motivations, your attacks against people, are ultimately irrelevant, the only thing that matters is what can be demonstrated.