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Originally Posted by photon
Of course I didn't make a conclusion; all knowledge is provisional. I'm willing to accept new explanations for phenomenon given new evidence. The problem is that evidence part.
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Photon, what are you talking about? The Fravor incident had included video shot by the 2nd plane (well, technically, third, since there were 2 in the initial contact) that went out, plus the "tic tac" was tracked by their weapons pod. They were initially called out to intercept by the Princeton, an AEGIS cruiser that was tracking the "bogeys" on radar. Fravor isn't just some guy - he was a Top Gun graduate and instructor, and at the time, wing commander on the Nimitz, so, basically, one of the top pilots USA had in 2004. He is certainly capable of judging the size, movement, and relative positions of airborne objects - probably better than anyone on Earth, aside from the handful of other people similarly qualified. The USN/Pentagon says this is a legitimate "encounter".
Of course, none of that says "OMG, ALIENS!" The real interesting thing is the tech, and, of course the big question is - whose tech is it? God damn, it's pretty exciting that this sort of flight is possible, whether it's a gravity drive, warp or whatnot.
Now, is it American, Chinese, alien probe, something salvaged from an an alien crash, human time-travelers? Ihave no idea. I am open-minded enough to be willing to consider any of the above - I really don't know but am curious to see.
BTW, couple days ago Rogan interviewed Christopher Mellon (hope the spelling is right), former intelligence "guy" and Asst Sec Def (and I hope that's the right title - something on that level anyhow) under Clinton and Bush the younger. I thought the interview would be about dealing with China, given the profile, but, nope - UFOs!
Good interview - they actually went through the whole history of the key "UFO" incidents over the decades and it was interesting to listen to, regardless of your "buy-in" level. Anyhow, he was pretty dismissive of Lazar, but said the Nimitz incident (Fravor) was the most compelling one of all. He said there are some more that have not yet been released by DOD that are on the same level, and that they are considered "real" by the "government". He said it is getting a lot more attention now, and is a real security issue. Again, that does not automatically mean "ALIENS!", but the fact that something can **** with a carrier group is a big deal, particularly if it is in fact Chinese or Russian....