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Old 05-06-2021, 02:02 PM   #1951
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Originally Posted by jayswin View Post
^^^^^^

There's value in what he does for males
I actually disagree with this because even when he does this, he basically engages in essentialism that either intentionally or unintentionally denegrates women, as well as men who don't conform to his "masculine" archetype.

In the video I posted, you can kind see he just kind of lazily falls into calling "competency" a masculine trait. I apologize that it's an HasanAbi clip, because that guy can be super bro-y and irritating, but I didn't want to go digging around for the actual Schultz clip.



If you have 15 minutes you have nothing better to waste on, you can see that Peterson does his usual trick of refusing to commit to defining what he's talking about, and just kind of flails around with circular reasoning.

His argument regarding power and greatness when taken to its logical conclusion is a) complete nonsense and b) a little fascist sounding. And I don't mean fascist as in "he's Hitler," just that the foundations of what he believes regarding power and greatness is at least philosophically adjacent to the philosophies that underpin fascism.

I think what my biggest problem with Peterson is that the guy just seems completely unwilling to accept criticism from anyone, and instead resorts to saying he's being attacked. In some cases he's right. Some of his critics have come for him with baseless nonsense and are clearly motivated by an agenda, but not all of them. A truly honest intellectual would at least acknowledge some of the more valid criticisms or, at the very least, why his work has been perceived in a certain manner.

I kind of liken it to someone who does art that depicts children in a manner that some criticize as pedophilic, and the artist and his fans go "Nuh uh, you're just too stupid and uncultured to understand it." Meanwhile his work is consistently being purchased by pedophiles. It doesn't necessarily mean that the art itself is pedophilic nor that his critics are entirely correct, but it's probably something the artist should examine.

If Peterson's content is being heavily consumed by incels and misogynists, and women consistently find it sexist, there's at the very least a presentation/communication issue.

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