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Originally Posted by New Era

The problem with what you are suggesting is your reliance on your framing of what advanced technology would look like. You are reliant on thinking that advanced technology would be in forms similar to what we use today. I would counter that advanced technology from millennia ago would have a very different take on technology.

As was outlined in the Rogan discussion with Lazar, if we had gone down the technological branch that Tesla had envisioned (transmission of electricity through the atmosphere) our current world never would have had opportunity to exist. Microprocessors and cellular technology would never developed because of the disruptive/destructive nature of the free energy in the atmosphere. That is a recent example of technology branches that would have completely changed our world.

If you go back to the Lazar interview he even goes as far as admitting there was only one thing on the alien craft they immediately were able to comprehend how it worked, and it was a rudimentary hatch to a different level of the vehicle. Everything else was beyond them. There were no wires, no computers, no anything from our context of understanding technology. So if an older civilization took a different branch in technological development, we may not even recognize it if we were staring it in the face, because our context does not allow us to understand it. If an ancient civilization relied on similar technology it would slip right past us. We wouldn't understand the tech we were looking at. It also wouldn't show up in the climate record as the technology doesn't pollute or leave traces of its use. You would also have to take into consideration the numbers of humans at that time, the small populations, and the limited number of sites where technology like this would develop or be be created. We would be looking for a needle in a haystack, and not knowing what a needle looked like.

The same goes to your comments of not seeing anything in the geologic record. Do we know what we are looking for? Would the technology developed and used at the time impact the geologic record? If that civilization was tens of thousands of years before the Sumerians, would we really be able to find remnants of their civilization, especially if we have no context of their culture or how they worked with/against nature? It is amazing at how quickly nature can consume man made objects in our current context. If the context was different, we wouldn't know what to look for. We may also not even be looking in the right locations. Anyone who has seen the ruins of the Mayan or Inca empires will tell you how impressive they are. But anyone who has traveled the jungles of Central America will tell you that you could be feet from an unexcavated ruin and you wouldn't even know it. Nature does an incredibly good job of consuming what we build, even some of our most impressive structures.

I would also add that you do make it sound like we have excavated the whole planet and discovered all this is to know about the history of man and this planet itself. I would suggest that we haven't even scratched the surface. The civilizations we may be looking for may be under a hundred feet of water. That would make the discovery highly unlikely, especially with the context we rely upon.

The assumptions that an advanced society also wouldn't have been global in scale doesn't make much sense.