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Old 04-26-2021, 11:50 PM   #1884
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Okay but in defence of America here it’s not like it’s their obligation to just take the whole western hemispheres poor huddled masses either due to “moral obligation “ either, is it?

I put myself in their shoes for a minute. How many Canadians would be okay with just thousands and thousands of immigrants cruising on into the country ad nausem?

Are we saying there is no solution and if so I guess the best way to invade a country is just send your women and children in and hope for the best. People are “escaping” things but there needs be a line drawn on condemnation from the world as well as it’s not the USA’s duty to take everybody in because their own countries can’t get their #### together. I understand this is highly ignorant but big picture here it is not so black and white.

That’s why my solution of hey have you clowns put any effort into reuniting families? Because I haven’t seen much reported on that front and quite frankly it’s gotta be cheaper and better from a humanitarian perspective than jailing children and then borderline feeding them. This is a complex problem and I don’t think people are adequately framing things fairly.

Trump is an idiot but there is a reason why “the wall” got so much press. To dismiss those concerns from the average American is pretty disingenuous. It’s not outright in this thread but that is the tone and flavour I get from the left brigade on here. As if the US are just villains for not letting families stay together and find refuge in their country no holds barred. Separating families while maybe frowned upon does send a pretty compelling message not to fata around, I mean can’t really debate that one.
Eh, if I were you I would spend some time researching the issue (if you care to). This is not about letting everyone in no holds barred.

A lot of what you say they should do is what they try to do, it’s the process and conditions between when they arrive at the border and when they leave that is the problem. And a lot of what you’re giving soft support to (policies and facilities) are rife with human rights abuses and in defiance of international law. Even talking about dismissing the concerns of Americans being disingenuous while talking about Trump’s separation policy somewhat favourable is kind of ridiculous, as the vast majority of Americans were against it, and it was bad enough that it lasted three whole months.

People have no problem looking back at the human rights abuses throughout history and saying “wow, that was bad!” but serve up something will a similar flavour in their own backyard, and how quickly it goes to “nothing wrong here” or “I kind of get it” is pretty crazy.
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