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Old 04-22-2021, 06:37 PM   #2813
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Originally Posted by HighLifeMan View Post
It wasn't just one season though. The three regular seasons combined prior to the Colorado series Johhny Gaudreau ranked 6th in the NHL in even strength point production, and Sean Monahan was 21st. It's clear there was an organizational shift that took place.

Pts/60
2016/2017/2018

Johhny Gaudreau - 2.58pts/60 (6th)
Sean Monahan - 2.27 pts/60 (26th)

2019/2020

Johhny Gaudreau - 1.63pts/60 (163rd)
Sean Monahan - 1.55pts/60 (196th)


These two didn't just drop off over an off-season. It coincides with this organizations shift to make them more accountable and difficult to play against. It hasn't worked.
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Originally Posted by Classic_Sniper View Post
Peters and Ward had the exact same system. Darryl’s system is completely different. I honestly don’t think Peters’ 50 win season was as impressive as it looks, they caught lightning in a bottle in November-December, won seemingly every game. But after the all star game, the league started to play more playoff style hockey and the same dynamic duo struggled once again, just like the year before. Only this time around, they built up enough of a cushion where their placement in the standings wasn’t badly effected unlike in 17-18 when they were just a bubble playoff team all season long. In the end though, Colorado showed the Flames what they truly are though.

Quite simply put, this roster has been flawed for a loooong time. They rely on a dynamic duo to get them to the playoffs, but once they get there, there’s no back up plan when this line inevitably falters like they always do. Not enough scoring depth, goaltenders not good enough, no real team identity. I mean, what else is new? It’s the same old story.


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Johnny, Monny, and the Flames have always struggled more against the Pacific division, who they see most often. '19-20 below is only through Xmas:


thread: https://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=177290

Failures in the playoffs, and this season's series format seem like further confirmation that they are especially easy to game plan against.

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Originally Posted by Strange Brew View Post
Pointing exclusively to disintegration of 13 and 23's play does not justify what is, IMO, a poorly constructed roster. Many people questioned whether those two could ever form the top line on a contending team.

And suggesting the only way Treliving should be is accountable is if ownership told him to move on from Gaudreau and Monahan and he resisted seems like an example of trying too hard to absolve the General Manager of responsibility.

The GM is much more of a CEO and ownership is a BOD in a typical public company construct. I haven't seen many CEO's successfully pass off responsibility for business failure to their Board.
What if BT has been telling ownership he thinks they need to move on from 13/23/5? But ownership has disagreed?

I suspect they agreed on one more kick for this group last year, but then COVID made it tough...
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