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Originally Posted by Vinny01
Yes I agree the last big trwde he made was 3 years ago which is almost half of his entire tenure. He definitely is a guy that likes to talk deal but hasn’t been able to close many relative to the rumors.
It all started in 2014 the Flames were getting the Carolina 7th overall pick for taking back Cam Ward’s deal. Or the Flames were getting the Coyotes 12th overall pick but Mike Ribero won’t waive his NMC to come here
2015 he pulls off the big Hamilton deal to cap off a hugely successful year 1
2016 rumors all day on the draft that the Flames are either acquiring Ben Bishop and signing him to a 7x7 deal and/or the Flames will be moving into the top 3 of the draft. The night ends up okay as Tkachuk slipped to the Flames at 6 but Brian Elliott was hardly as exciting as Bishop would have been
2017- he makes the Smith and Hamonic deals to keep the wheeling and dealing personna alive but makes a horrible trade with the Islanders
2018- makes the Hurricanes blockbuster and signs plenty of free agents in Ryan, Czarnik, and Neal to multi year deals.
2019-21 he does very little with the team. Swaps Neal for Lucic, makes the big big goalie signing this past offseason and swaps Brodie/Hamonic for Tanev. Lots of potential deals fall through for Stone, Zucker, Kadri and the flames were not able to make the Dubois trade.
He held onto the core for too long hoping they bounce back but now he has to make changes and the assets are worth less than they were last year or the year before. Worries me to think he may have little choice but to tinker and maybe make one really big move (Gaudreau) that underwhelms the fans and they come back next year fully committed to Sutter hockey which will have the Flames playing mostly 2-1 games for the next 2 years until they rear the whole thing down
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I think this is getting blown out of proportion. I listened to the morning show as well and certainly it isn't a new topic of discussion but this idea that the Flames assets are distressed or we can now only 'sell low' is pure speculation. Fans, media, we have no idea what the value of these players are.
The truth of it is, the only people who know the value of Gaudreau, or Monahan, or Tkachuk, or Hanifin, or whom ever, is Treliving, his colleagues and other GM's. About 9 days ago it seemed like the popular opinion around here was that the Flames would do well to get a third for Sam Bennett. I would bet there is more than one team out there who think if they add JG they can get him back to his 90 point form.
I will also add, how many players are traded at their perceived peak? Not many. I would say none of the following were; Liane, PLD, Kadri, Bennett, Duschene, ROR, Pacioretty, Anderson. There have been plenty of players traded who are at a 'low' and returned good value. It is awfully easy right now to catastorphize the situation the Flames are in. I tend to think Treliving's approach has been measured and this summer we will see some significant change to the roster.