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Originally Posted by Fuzz
Funny how you assume anyone with a different opinion than you doesn't know what they are talking about.
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That's the problem, most of what you post is opinion. I base my predictions on current facts, for example in self driving Tesla is far far ahead. This is based on their neural network, ASIC FSD hardware, and in general how they approach autonomy.
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Exactly, Tesla has all that data and go watch that video and tell me they are close. Imagine what that looks like on winter roads. I'd propose that any vehicle Tesla sold with current FSD hardware will never reach level 5 in winter conditions, and I'd be surprised if it does it safely in summer, too.
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I've watched many FSD vids, Tesla is the only one that can even attempt to drive in a city environment without any previous data. The system has a lot of flaws but gets better every day. Watch some where the car navigates a street/area where it has never been before, then the next time. Drastic improvement the system self learns.
As for winter driving, another challenge that's why I think it will take 18+ months.
But I'll say it again, if you're super confident these random auto makers will best Tesla then invest, you'll be rich. The company that has the best FSD, the best EV, best range, best charging time/infrastructure will be the next Apple when it comes to share price. Love it or hate it, the "green" movement is just beginning.