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Originally Posted by sa226
A lot of things have to go right to win a Cup. You don't just draw up a blueprint and set them loose.
The Flames have had all the necessary ingredients to be a perennial contender in a 3 to 5 year window. It's easy to point to the mistakes of Brouwer, Neal and Hamonic. But most GMs have blunders like that.
The Flames have drafted top 10, 3 times. They have acquired 2 more players that were top 10 picks, they had an undrafted player win the Norris and have struck gold with a couple lower draft picks. To me those are some pretty darn good ingredients for a contending team. It just hasn't panned out. They're stale and they're not good enough. It really is time to break up the core. With Sutter in as coach, who knows what happens. It's almost too little too late.
The one thing I absolutely lay at the feet of Treliving is the goaltending, with an honorable mention to coaching. In a results based business, when this group was in a decent position to win a round or 2, the goaltending absolutely let them down. That's on Treliving.
I hesitate a bit with the coaching, because I do think it's difficult to get top coaches to come here for whatever reason. Gulutzan was a mistake, but Peters was his guy. He was the one he wanted all along. Regardless of whether or not you think Treliving should have done more DD on Peters' past, that didn't end the way it was supposed to.
I'm really 50 -50 on Treliving. I think he is smart enough to recognize his mistakes and can adjust and grow. You can't discount the importance of stability. He also has done more that enough to get a big ol pink slip.
Meh.
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I didn't like the hiring process on Peters. BUT I don't think a more fulsome process would have included canvassing all former minor league players to see if there was some incident in the past. I just thought Treliving should have looked at more candidates.
I generally agree with your overall premise. Treliving just hasn't made any mistakes out of a lack of competence (like, say, not knowing the CBA). He's made a few pro scouting assessment mistakes like all GMs do, and overpaid to get a guy he wanted, like all GMs do. When he doesn't get a player this site is "he never gets a deal done" and when he does make a trade it's "he paid too much".