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Originally Posted by Ashes
I see what you're saying about how they all count no matter how you score them.. but you have to acknowledge that Monahan and his line have been getting absolutely dominated 5v5 for years now. So I disagree.. If you're going to try make the argument that Monahan is in the upper tier of Center's in the game right now, you HAVE to take into account his 5v5 points versus special teams.
And sorry but I don't see what you see with these dramatic improvements to his defensive game.. not even close, he's too slow to ever be more than an average defender, and he's scared to carry the puck (as a Center!)
Can't help but think Pat and Will were right a few weeks ago when they said 100% Tre shopped him around and every other GM essentially knew he wasn't worth the price. Not trying to pile on, it's just sad to see where 23 and 13 are at right now, very frustrating. Lets just hope they re-invent themselves at 5v5 under Sutter for these last 24 games 
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For total points scored from 2018-2021 Monahan ranks 24th.
5-on-5 scoring from 2018-2021.
The "Superstars"
1. McDavid - 172 points
2. Draisaitl - 168 points
3. MacKinnon - 144 points
5. Matthews - 134 points
10. Crosby - 120 points
The "CP Favorites" or players that have been mentioned as replacements for Monahan.
6. Barkov - 129 points
12. O'Reilly - 118 points
14. Eichel - 115 points
15. Malkin - 113 points
16. Barzal - 112 points
21. Zibanejad - 105 points
26. Petersson - 101 points
27. Lindholm - 100 points
28. Kuznetsov - 99 points
29. Schenn - 97 points
33. Horvat - 94 points
35. - Bergeron - 94 points
36. Krejci - 94 points
37. Duchene - 92 points
Sean "terrible at 5-on-5" Monahan?
24th with 103 points.
Hopefully this puts an end to this stupid narrative he doesn't score 5-on-5. If anything, Monahan doesn't score enough on the PP to keep up with some of those peers he gets compared to. Take "Simple Jack" Eichel. 14th in 5-on-5, but 7th in PP scoring! "Boring Sean Monahan" is Mr. Consistency in scoring, staying at 24th in almost every measure. There in lies the problem with Monahan. He's not flashy and he's consistent in his output, so the fans here who so badly want someone to complete with McDavid take out their angst and frustration on the guy who just gets the job done.