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Originally Posted by dammage79
I disagree on Patrick being a bust. Firstly, the migrane issues are sorted, he has missed no time because of them since coming back from treating the issue.
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Migraine issues are never resolved. Migraines are a chronic condition that can flair up at the worst of times. Suggesting his migraine issue is no longer a concern is not understanding the complexity of migraines themselves. Suggesting that a person with chronic migraines would be a good fit in Calgary, a migraine sufferer's hell scape because of temperature inversions, is quite shortsighted.
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Secondly, 29 games played after missing more than a year is woefully shortsighted on your part to call him a bust.
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I disagree. You know a dynamic player when you see one. Patrick is not dynamic in any shape or form. Seriously, you have to go all the way back to 1989 to find a #2 overall pick that has looked this bad, and there have been some sketchy number twos out there. Patrick hasn't shown a helluva lot for the Flyers and they have given him opportunity to succeed. To me, he's out Sam Bennetted Sam Bennett. The guy has the NHL size but doesn't have the NHL skill.
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It's fine to think that the Flames can extract more value for Johnny, or even think Patrick should be a secondary piece in a deal, but I'm not writing this player off, it's far too early. And like I said, he is buried in Philly.
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You have to look at his toolset. What does he do at the elite level? Does he have elite speed? No. Does he have elite puck skills? No. Does he have elite vision or head for the game? No. Does he have an elite shot? No. Is he a sound two way player? Not even remotely. So what is it exactly that makes him an elite talent or even a top six player? He does nothing great that makes him stand out. He's all risk.
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Where as in Calgary there's so much room for him to move up and grow into a top line player or even hedging the bets a 2nd liner. And again the on ice portion is not full value but the cap flex to supplement the team is there. So it's like adding a a big fast RHS AND other forwards for Johnny.
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The only thing I like about Patrick is he's a right shot. But he has nothing else going for him. I just don't see any upside in this guy. II think he's too risky and would not trade a player of significance for him. Sam Bennett for him? Hell yes! As a principle player in a trade for Johnny Gaudreau? Hell no.
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Originally Posted by Wolfman
We should be acquiring more 1st, 2nd, and 3rd rounders to make up for the ones we've lost in trade over the years.
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Do that, the cue the rebuild. Trading away top six players for draft picks is throwing the towel in and making a statement we're looking at player 5-6 years downstream.