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Old 03-22-2021, 09:56 AM   #145
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The last thing we would want is a war in Asia, the supply lines are too long for the main parties on the Western side, and Taiwan and Japan would bear the burnt of it.


From a naval perspective the PLAN wouldn't last all that long in a blue water engagement, but drawing them out from the umbrella of advanced Chinese anti-ship missiles would be impossible. Similarly the PLAA would probably not do all that well in an air war against the American's.



But where would it go from there? You're not going to win any kind of invasion as the PLA is massive, and the Chinese have spent a ton of money on upgrading its capabilities. If you decide to bust Chinese cities, to what effect? Taiwan and Japan at the very least vanish. Even in a conventional War its likely that if China does win, they snatch up as many of the strategic resources as they can (Oil Fields in the China seas). As well China can choke off the American's and others in terms of strategic resources.



The war that needs to be fought with China is with spreadsheets and quickbooks. That requires the Americans to clamp down.


However Canada needs to stop sending infrastructure Dollars or any other kind of funding to China or its businesses, and send that money to China's competitors in the area to encourage them to take advantage of a Canada's open for your business and will help you supplant Chinese goods.



There needs to be a lot of trade reformation in trade agreements with China, and that needs to have America and the other large partners on board. Trade with China has never really met trade. In terms of consumer goods or finished goods going into China its an extremely closed off market place. However China has an expectation that everyone should accept their goods without conditions. Also China still leads the world in industrial espionage and stealing patents.



You want to hurt China, its on the balance sheet, its demanding that trade means trade and you're markets have to open way up. It also means that China has to do a better job in terms of things like shipping out opiods from their little labs under the eyes of their Military and clamp down on their hacking and espionage.



And Canada needs to build a coalition around that, and push the American's on that. China still has a huge need for hard currency, they're spending a ton of their military, and intelligence gathering.



Sorry for the long post. But China is a bully, there's no other description of it. Smack them on the nose now, or regret it later. And yeah, China will retaliate, but its no different from how they're doing business now anyways.
Oh, I agree. You're not going to threaten China with actual war, because they know the West won't ever do it. It's all through economic means, and information espionage. You have to hit them in their pocket books at this point, there's no other way.

Not saying it's easy, but that's kind of the result of years of reliance on cheap labour and manufacturing from China. It's going to be a real hard sell to wean the West off of cheap merchandise that they're used to. China played the long game, and they've now put the West in a hard place because of it.
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