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Harry Lime · 03-20-2021, 08:01 PM

Ok, it took three days and I kept notes on what looked like pertinent changes so I wouldn't lose track between viewings. Here are my takeaways :

Snyder is not a good motion picture director. He is an excellent music video director and decent at putting together a fight/action sequence. A complete movie of 'epic' visuals makes none of them epic, because they come across as a plateau.

Joe Morton and Jeremy Irons are the tits.

The ending makes sense now!

Steppenwolf, and the villains as a whole are much better represented. By making them have some depth and motivation, the heroic journey actually has some gravity. This is really basic stuff.

The CGI is soooo horrible. And it's everywhere.

The writing on anything Cyborg related is really cringy. It's what a junior high kid would think of as deep and touching.

This could use 'The Snyder Edit' and bring it down to 3 and a half hours. Pretty bloated. If the slo-mo was regular speed, this could probably be fixed. The only guy who should be slo-mo is Flash.

Here are my notes. It's mostly nonsensical on a re-read, but a couple are funny, and good reminders.

Spoiler!

PREAMBLE

That's not how sound works.
Maybe it's his Kryptonian essence being released or something.
Superman just killed Zod. Did that frickazee the mother boxes, too?
Was Luthor in that pool for the entire life of Doomsday?
Do they just stand there all day looking at the mother box for centuries at a time?
People live in that village, he probably didn't need to ride a yak there.

PART ONE

Oh, there was a storm, so he rode the yak.
Storms over now, he could have waited and a chopper would have matched yak riding time.
He just told everyone in that village Batman is Bruce Wayne.
Weird singing and smelling shirts moment.
Can hardly wait for a bunch of dudes to sing to Wonder Woman and then sniff her clothing.
Wonder Woman opening much more interesting tone.
Note for future reference : WW now has super speed to rival Superman,
and can turn bad guys into jello people if she throws them. I assume they are all dead now.
and can straight up fly.
She could have just jelloed that guy instead of blowing up the building!
Steppenwolf's mouth does not form words well.
If two Amazon's can hold the door, I'm sure Steppenwolf will have no problem. Not well thought out.
Wait, was the building falling into the ocean part of the plan?
These are bad CGI horses. Couldn't they afford horses?
This fight defies physics. I defy you, Physics!
The Amazons had. one. job.

PART TWO

Setting up the Russian location and giving Steppenwolf a motivation! Well done.
More Joe Morton is good. Oh, he's gone.
One gutsy janitor. Oh, he's dead.
Amazon's are good at warnings!
Joe Morton is the most useful part of the movie so far.
Is that a sketch of Batman? Or Parademon Batman? What?
WW gives us some background info on why we should care. Darkseid!
Aquaman context. Interesting.
Steppenwolf meets with DeSaad, making him one of a group.
Invokes Lanterns, Kryptonians and Darkseid, as well as Steppenwolf's betrayal.
Depth! Good.
Very long CGI ancient exposition. Looks horrible, but essential info.
Darkseid instead of Steppenwolf, good choice. He has not learned speech. Grunts ahoy.
Lanterns! Oh, he's dead.

PART THREE

Barry "Woody" Allen
That truck driver went a solid city block under the dash hunting for a fallen sandwich.
A little inappropriate wiener in the pocket moment while fondling the crash victim.
They didn't even really try with the cyborg CGI. Wait, the football game is CGI! Why?
I'm guessing that the truck driver from the Flash scene hit Cyborg's mom's car.
Still looking for the sandwich under the seat.
I'm wondering where they found the four year old to write the Cyborg origin story.
Man, Cyborg is a brat. Does he not know of the power of Joe Morton?
Batman meets Flash is still one of the best scenes.
Pretty sure Alfred is the coolest guy in the DCU, by a mile.
Getting a little overloaded with Mercedes product placement.
Atlaneans are worse at protecting mother boxes than Amazons.

PART FOUR

Fight scene.
Raising the stakes, Darkseid wants the anti-life equation on Earth.
Steppenwolf, you flunky, get to work.
After school special on steroids melodrama time.
I guess this is the chapter that made me look up who wrote this :
Some dude named Chris Terrio, who wrote BvS and Rise of the Skywalker.
Also Argo, which makes me think that was actually Affleck being modest
What a weird way to introduce Manhunter.
Should I disregard that previous touching scene now?
If you didn't know who MM was, that scene would be very confusing.
Establishing the motherboxes fear of Krytonians is kind of important. Don't remember that in old one.

PART FIVE

Not sure why they are letting Joe Morton go, when he is wanted by interstellar bug demons.
The superheroes seem to be getting in the way of legitimate JLA leader, Joe Morton.
He allows it.
Krytonian ship is interesting. I wonder if we will get a Russell Crowe appearance...
Nope, back to Lois Lane sleeping and possible Manhunter as a general appliance in the room somewhere.
They don't question why he is not in rigor and is in pretty good shape.
"The future has taken route in the present" is always true, not a revelation.
Joe Morton has the mother box again. The world is safe.
Cyclops grows baby arms to punch Superman. That's adorable.
Alfred's magic arm bands (tm).
Having Lois already there makes much more sense than the 'secret weapon' idea.
She's taking the resurrection pretty well.
While the JLA fights Superman, Joe Morton must defend against the melting of planet Earth into goo.
Joe Morton uses the mother box to frickazee himself!
I find it unlikely that the mighty Joe Morton is really dead.

PART SIX

Touching moment, but I'm really wondering where the hell Martha Kent is right now.
Steppenwolf fixed a nuclear radiation problem. Hurray?
When Supes kissed Lois, all I could think of was, "He's been dead for weeks".
Mouthwash, at least.
Martha's back! Or, is she?
The Amazons, Atlanteans and the mighty Alfred are all informed of the creation of Unity.
Russell Crowe + Kevin Costner + Black Suit. Hurray!
Established Synderverse fact : Batmobile is excellent at killing.
Fight sequence is less goofy than Whedon.
Alfred and Superman meeting!
Superman isn't the savior, but a cog in the machine. Smartest thing about this movie.
Aquaman and Wonder Woman don't play.
Where was that with Max Lord?
DeSaad says mother boxes destroyed. But there are just seperated. Dumb DeSaad.
These people pose a lot.

EPILOGUE

Well, you made me look up who Ryan Choi is. The third Atom, I guess.
First epilogue : Heroes. Good, good. Let's end it here...
Second epilogue : Villains. You already introduced Darkseid, anything else is a letdown.
Third epilogue : Never once has a dystopian vision come true in the DCU.
Fourth epilogue : Manhunter again. Whatever. I give less ####s than Bruce.
Everybody on earth knows that Bruce is Batman.

03-20-2021, 08:01 PM	#3277
Harry Lime Franchise Player Join Date: Feb 2014 Exp:	Ok, it took three days and I kept notes on what looked like pertinent changes so I wouldn't lose track between viewings. Here are my takeaways : Snyder is not a good motion picture director. He is an excellent music video director and decent at putting together a fight/action sequence. A complete movie of 'epic' visuals makes none of them epic, because they come across as a plateau. Joe Morton and Jeremy Irons are the tits. The ending makes sense now! Steppenwolf, and the villains as a whole are much better represented. By making them have some depth and motivation, the heroic journey actually has some gravity. This is really basic stuff. The CGI is soooo horrible. And it's everywhere. The writing on anything Cyborg related is really cringy. It's what a junior high kid would think of as deep and touching. This could use 'The Snyder Edit' and bring it down to 3 and a half hours. Pretty bloated. If the slo-mo was regular speed, this could probably be fixed. The only guy who should be slo-mo is Flash. Here are my notes. It's mostly nonsensical on a re-read, but a couple are funny, and good reminders. Spoiler! PREAMBLE That's not how sound works. Maybe it's his Kryptonian essence being released or something. Superman just killed Zod. Did that frickazee the mother boxes, too? Was Luthor in that pool for the entire life of Doomsday? Do they just stand there all day looking at the mother box for centuries at a time? People live in that village, he probably didn't need to ride a yak there. PART ONE Oh, there was a storm, so he rode the yak. Storms over now, he could have waited and a chopper would have matched yak riding time. He just told everyone in that village Batman is Bruce Wayne. Weird singing and smelling shirts moment. Can hardly wait for a bunch of dudes to sing to Wonder Woman and then sniff her clothing. Wonder Woman opening much more interesting tone. Note for future reference : WW now has super speed to rival Superman, and can turn bad guys into jello people if she throws them. I assume they are all dead now. and can straight up fly. She could have just jelloed that guy instead of blowing up the building! Steppenwolf's mouth does not form words well. If two Amazon's can hold the door, I'm sure Steppenwolf will have no problem. Not well thought out. Wait, was the building falling into the ocean part of the plan? These are bad CGI horses. Couldn't they afford horses? This fight defies physics. I defy you, Physics! The Amazons had. one. job. PART TWO Setting up the Russian location and giving Steppenwolf a motivation! Well done. More Joe Morton is good. Oh, he's gone. One gutsy janitor. Oh, he's dead. Amazon's are good at warnings! Joe Morton is the most useful part of the movie so far. Is that a sketch of Batman? Or Parademon Batman? What? WW gives us some background info on why we should care. Darkseid! Aquaman context. Interesting. Steppenwolf meets with DeSaad, making him one of a group. Invokes Lanterns, Kryptonians and Darkseid, as well as Steppenwolf's betrayal. Depth! Good. Very long CGI ancient exposition. Looks horrible, but essential info. Darkseid instead of Steppenwolf, good choice. He has not learned speech. Grunts ahoy. Lanterns! Oh, he's dead. PART THREE Barry "Woody" Allen That truck driver went a solid city block under the dash hunting for a fallen sandwich. A little inappropriate wiener in the pocket moment while fondling the crash victim. They didn't even really try with the cyborg CGI. Wait, the football game is CGI! Why? I'm guessing that the truck driver from the Flash scene hit Cyborg's mom's car. Still looking for the sandwich under the seat. I'm wondering where they found the four year old to write the Cyborg origin story. Man, Cyborg is a brat. Does he not know of the power of Joe Morton? Batman meets Flash is still one of the best scenes. Pretty sure Alfred is the coolest guy in the DCU, by a mile. Getting a little overloaded with Mercedes product placement. Atlaneans are worse at protecting mother boxes than Amazons. PART FOUR Fight scene. Raising the stakes, Darkseid wants the anti-life equation on Earth. Steppenwolf, you flunky, get to work. After school special on steroids melodrama time. I guess this is the chapter that made me look up who wrote this : Some dude named Chris Terrio, who wrote BvS and Rise of the Skywalker. Also Argo, which makes me think that was actually Affleck being modest What a weird way to introduce Manhunter. Should I disregard that previous touching scene now? If you didn't know who MM was, that scene would be very confusing. Establishing the motherboxes fear of Krytonians is kind of important. Don't remember that in old one. PART FIVE Not sure why they are letting Joe Morton go, when he is wanted by interstellar bug demons. The superheroes seem to be getting in the way of legitimate JLA leader, Joe Morton. He allows it. Krytonian ship is interesting. I wonder if we will get a Russell Crowe appearance... Nope, back to Lois Lane sleeping and possible Manhunter as a general appliance in the room somewhere. They don't question why he is not in rigor and is in pretty good shape. "The future has taken route in the present" is always true, not a revelation. Joe Morton has the mother box again. The world is safe. Cyclops grows baby arms to punch Superman. That's adorable. Alfred's magic arm bands (tm). Having Lois already there makes much more sense than the 'secret weapon' idea. She's taking the resurrection pretty well. While the JLA fights Superman, Joe Morton must defend against the melting of planet Earth into goo. Joe Morton uses the mother box to frickazee himself! I find it unlikely that the mighty Joe Morton is really dead. PART SIX Touching moment, but I'm really wondering where the hell Martha Kent is right now. Steppenwolf fixed a nuclear radiation problem. Hurray? When Supes kissed Lois, all I could think of was, "He's been dead for weeks". Mouthwash, at least. Martha's back! Or, is she? The Amazons, Atlanteans and the mighty Alfred are all informed of the creation of Unity. Russell Crowe + Kevin Costner + Black Suit. Hurray! Established Synderverse fact : Batmobile is excellent at killing. Fight sequence is less goofy than Whedon. Alfred and Superman meeting! Superman isn't the savior, but a cog in the machine. Smartest thing about this movie. Aquaman and Wonder Woman don't play. Where was that with Max Lord? DeSaad says mother boxes destroyed. But there are just seperated. Dumb DeSaad. These people pose a lot. EPILOGUE Well, you made me look up who Ryan Choi is. The third Atom, I guess. First epilogue : Heroes. Good, good. Let's end it here... Second epilogue : Villains. You already introduced Darkseid, anything else is a letdown. Third epilogue : Never once has a dystopian vision come true in the DCU. Fourth epilogue : Manhunter again. Whatever. I give less ####s than Bruce. Everybody on earth knows that Bruce is Batman. __________________ "By Grabthar's hammer ... what a savings."