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Old 03-20-2021, 08:48 AM   #93
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Originally Posted by Mr.Coffee View Post
Canadians need to start caring about the economy.

It needs to be the #1 laser focus for all Canadians and like yesterday.

This country is in big trouble. I hope people aren’t hanging onto this quality of life and thinking it’ll last. We can’t compete in this world with Canadian priorities. That’s just a fact. So, people need to wrap their head around things like a ####tier life if you’re going to go #### around with China.

Seriously- you will get what you’re asking for and I’m not even providing an opinion if that’s right or wrong- it just is. Get ready to be made an example of by China for making the kinda grand stands people are banging for in here. We are the perfect country for China to make an example of. We don’t matter, we think we do, and they can send a message to the world if we screw with them. So if we do, get ready for life to be worse and really dig into that idea and get comfortable with it. Because that is reality. Our comfortable little lives here are insanely dependent on China. So many examples.

Here’s just one. Real estate in Vancouver. Goodbye. Decimated. Liquidation world. Guess who that also impacts? People in Calgary. What about oil and gas? Yes, connected to China. What about trade relations with the United States? Impacts from China. What about just about ####ing everything? China.

So I mean, sure, stand up to them. But buckle up not just for the retaliation punch, but a bullet. There’s brave, and then sometimes there’s just really stupid. But I’ve learned our country is the latter.

I think that we all get that. However at the same time, that punch is either coming today or tomorrow or 6 months from now or 5 years from now. If we don't establish a push back position with an expectation retaliation, its going to be, well it already is going to be a Chinese national strategy that they will hang over our head, and we'll have to bow every single time.



Frankly we let this happen. We continue to send funding to China for infrastructure, continue to allow Chinese nationals to buy companies. Do these stupid jump programs with Huwei even though they're pretty much a key piece of the People's Liberation Intelligence Services. At the same time we blindly allow China to buy influence with well paid mercenaries like John McCallum (sp?) and others. We let them spy on us electronically, and do massive amounts of electronic and corporate espionage.



We let their "citizens" run cash for access fund raising events for political parties. We have MP's enrich themselves by doing business with them. We let them buy up swaths of our resources. So we've put ourselves in a position of eternal blackmail. We allowed ourselves to kneel before the Dragon.



But at the same time, the same leverage that they have with us, we should be exploiting with them. But then again that would only matter if Canada mattered on the World Stage. We've deluded ourselves as Canadians into believing that we were the wise suggesting middle power that could advise other countries and build coalitions where needed. But we can't.


At this point if we sit here and say, its ok to kidnap our citizens, and its ok to murder and do genocide as a state. Then every time China has a temper tantrum, we've set the precedence, they'll rattle more kidnapping or economic consequences in our face.



Stop sending any kind of grants or infrastructure dollars to China. Stop letting them manipulate the real estate and resource markets in this country to their benefit. Stop letting them establish their espionage networks in this country, stop letting them establish "unofficial ties" to Government officials. Start encouraging Chinese competitors and partnering up with them as a slap at the Chinese.



Are we going to let them whip us continually while we're on our knees in front of them. Or are we willing to act like a sovereign state and take the blow standing up.


China needs energy and hard currency, that's also for sure, they need it to buy things like next generation fighters and ships and feed their troops. Because China certainly has a military interest in Energy Self Sufficiency in their own region. That has to be address at some point by the Americans.



But to just shrug and tell China that its ok to kidnap citizens and run them through show trials while enslaving and enacting genocide because of the economy just feels wrong and a bad strategy because all that we're doing is encouraging them to continue to black mail us and subvert us forever.
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