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photon · 02-25-2007, 07:18 PM

True, when talking about creationism, you have to be clear what kind of creationism you are talking about.. Some think that the earth is 6,000 years old, some don't. Some think God is the "watchmaker" that put everything in motion (and as an aside, if God is the person who put everything in motion, doesn't that preclude a personal God? If God's creation was perfect then there would be no need for intervention, but if he does intervene then creation wasn't perfect.. anyway..)

However a creationist has to be careful, they can be guilty of moving the goalposts... If they believe that God created everything in 6 24 hour days, but then in light of evolution and all that evidence they accept that evolution is true, but put abiogenesis in God's hands, then we discover plausible mechanisms for first life, then the goalposts are moved back to the big bang.. then we discover the cause of the big bang, then the goalposts are moved back to the creation of the multiverse of universes, etc etc...

I was talking with someone last night who claimed it was impossible to be a Christian and NOT believe in a 6000 year old earth, and if they did they weren't Christian.

02-25-2007, 07:18 PM	#38
photon The new goggles also do nothing. Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Calgary Exp:	True, when talking about creationism, you have to be clear what kind of creationism you are talking about.. Some think that the earth is 6,000 years old, some don't. Some think God is the "watchmaker" that put everything in motion (and as an aside, if God is the person who put everything in motion, doesn't that preclude a personal God? If God's creation was perfect then there would be no need for intervention, but if he does intervene then creation wasn't perfect.. anyway..) However a creationist has to be careful, they can be guilty of moving the goalposts... If they believe that God created everything in 6 24 hour days, but then in light of evolution and all that evidence they accept that evolution is true, but put abiogenesis in God's hands, then we discover plausible mechanisms for first life, then the goalposts are moved back to the big bang.. then we discover the cause of the big bang, then the goalposts are moved back to the creation of the multiverse of universes, etc etc... I was talking with someone last night who claimed it was impossible to be a Christian and NOT believe in a 6000 year old earth, and if they did they weren't Christian. __________________ Uncertainty is an uncomfortable position. But certainty is an absurd one.