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Originally Posted by Sliver
A fataing sin. How hateful.
I realize Catholicism/Christianity is hateful already - that they believe non-Christians are going to burn in an eternal hell is abhorrent - but this is a more targeted hate versus their typical shot-gun approach to hate.
We all know gay people. At this point in 2021 to view their mere existence a sin is an a-hole move of the highest order. I suppose it's not really the church calling it a sin, though, it's actually straight from God per their statement.
I encourage you to read the statement here. I think we can get a little numb to the absurdity of religious texts by virtue of their age, but reading something so preposterous in 2021, written in 2021, hit me hard today. Like, they quote God as though 1. he's real and 2. he weighed in on this issue. GFY. It's just so ridiculous.
According to the Catholic Church of which there are 1.3 billion members worldwide, if you're in a gay relationship you are not in a licit relationship because “there are absolutely no grounds for considering homosexual unions to be in any way similar or even remotely analogous to God’s plan for marriage and family.”
I don't know how people can follow this ####. Like, really, maybe you were cool with the church sheltering pedophiles for hundreds of years because you like their stories and cool architecture, but does this give you pause? At what point is the church a hate group? They are diminishing the lives of gay people by labeling their relationships as lesser-than. This will result in more discrimination against gay people. And to think there are Calgarians in this club. And schools preaching this crap. Imagine being a closeted 16-year-old gay student today how you'd feel walking into your Catholic school this morning...there should be outrage at this and people should be renouncing their faith.
Any Catholics want to weigh in on this? Do you actually give credence to the authority of these old virgins sitting in their palace? Do you think homosexuality is a sin? Do you really think your god views gay people as living sinful lives? I can't seem to put my brain in a spot where any of this thinking is reasonable. Would you look a gay couple in the eye and tell them they are sinners and in an illicit union in the eyes of god?
I like to be proud of the organizations in which I'm involved. If I were Catholic, today would be a very tough day. To release this statement is embarrassing and shameful.
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Being raised catholic, and living as a fairly "casual" catholic, the bolded is absolutely no business of any one individual to do this. I know there is something about "not judging others" that we are all to live by. We have gay members in our family and friends who are gay. We love them and support them unconditionally, I don't care what any religious stance is. I look at church like I do the sales training courses I am required to take. You have to determine what applies to you and what doesn't, and take from it what is going to help you in life going forward. Really there should be a "new modern catholic" branch would openly condemn the past acts of pedophilia, greed and bigotry while embracing new ways of thinking and beliefs.
The church labels homosexuality as a sin along with many other common place sins; abortion, divorce, adultery, pre marital sex, masturbation, suicide, drug abuse, and on and on. Now if someone completely dis agrees with religion, or is totally apathetic with regards to religion, or is an atheist, what bearing does the Catholic churches stance have on any of this? You can be a catholic yet still not hold the same views as the church on every single matter. And I know myself along with many more "staunch Catholics" believe this and live this way.
The catholic church has become the whipping boy when it comes to religion however. Ask the Baptists, the Mormons, the Buddhists and Islamists what their churches stance is on homosexual relationships and the true answers will be far worse then "they are sinners'. While you are at it ask the Mormons what their stance is on those of African American heritage. I mean based on any and all religions we are all sinners. The catholic stance on this is no different then most every other religion in the world, while some other relgions still believe in stoning gays, setting them on fore or throwing them off of bridges.