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PepsiFree · 03-15-2021, 10:37 AM

I mapped those countries against the dominant religion.

35/70 follow Islam
30/70 follow Christianity
5/70 follow Buddhism or Hinduism

So no, it isn't all of them, it isn't even half. But that said, when you see how Christianity is viewed vs Islam in the western world, you might assume Christianity would not be the dominant religious influence in 42% of some of the worst countries for gay people.

This is the issue I have. It's not uncommon for someone to trot out some appeal to emotion on the basis of "well you should dislike this religion, or hate that we're dealing with this country because of this religion" and it's almost always Islam. End of the day, Christianity can go #### itself too, in general.

I would say many religious people, Christian, Muslim, or otherwise, in Canada specifically and the west generally, are good people. Most of these people may be religious, but they can make their own decisions on how they feel about gay people (among hundreds of other things). I've met plenty of religious people who are fully supportive of the lives and rights of the LGBTQ+ community. And I believe in defending good people and the right for people to follow a religion that may also include a lot of people that hate or think lesser of LGBTQ+ people. Because we all have the power to make our own decisions and I fully respect the countless people who seek spiritful fulfillment while realizing the religion they choose to follow is not absolute.

This statement from the Vatican emboldens hateful people and continues to stop many of the "true believers" from opening their minds a little bit. For that, it is just one more embarrassing and disgusting thing from the Catholic church. But it doesn't change the many good people out there.

I agree with everything your said Sliver, except for one: I am not interested in hearing who here believes homosexuality is a sin or that same-sex unions should not be recognized. If you're one of those people, you're welcome to stay quiet and go #### yourself for all I care. But that's just me.

03-15-2021, 10:37 AM	#18
PepsiFree Participant Join Date: Jul 2015 Exp:	I mapped those countries against the dominant religion. 35/70 follow Islam 30/70 follow Christianity 5/70 follow Buddhism or Hinduism So no, it isn't all of them, it isn't even half. But that said, when you see how Christianity is viewed vs Islam in the western world, you might assume Christianity would not be the dominant religious influence in 42% of some of the worst countries for gay people. This is the issue I have. It's not uncommon for someone to trot out some appeal to emotion on the basis of "well you should dislike this religion, or hate that we're dealing with this country because of this religion" and it's almost always Islam. End of the day, Christianity can go #### itself too, in general. I would say many religious people, Christian, Muslim, or otherwise, in Canada specifically and the west generally, are good people. Most of these people may be religious, but they can make their own decisions on how they feel about gay people (among hundreds of other things). I've met plenty of religious people who are fully supportive of the lives and rights of the LGBTQ+ community. And I believe in defending good people and the right for people to follow a religion that may also include a lot of people that hate or think lesser of LGBTQ+ people. Because we all have the power to make our own decisions and I fully respect the countless people who seek spiritful fulfillment while realizing the religion they choose to follow is not absolute. This statement from the Vatican emboldens hateful people and continues to stop many of the "true believers" from opening their minds a little bit. For that, it is just one more embarrassing and disgusting thing from the Catholic church. But it doesn't change the many good people out there. I agree with everything your said Sliver, except for one: I am not interested in hearing who here believes homosexuality is a sin or that same-sex unions should not be recognized. If you're one of those people, you're welcome to stay quiet and go #### yourself for all I care. But that's just me.