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Old 03-10-2021, 01:05 PM   #903
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Originally Posted by Bingo View Post
Glad you liked it.

You always try and find negative summaries by sorting through stats in bizarre ways.

I just did the same.

It's odd to look at it as a one team vs other team issue.
It's odd to summarize the Flames organization back to when Kiprusoff retired as there isn't any one left to draw a commonality.

You've been called a troll by many, trolls get mocked when they fail to make the point they're trying to make.

My conclusion is the opposite of trolling, giving credit where credit is due. It's not a Vancouver vs other team issue ... it's a since injury issue, or a breakdown in team defense issue.

So why not post that in the first place and save us the chaos?
Since June 25,2011 when The Flames sent Regehr, right-winger Ales Kotalik and their second-round draft pick in 2012 to the Sabres for defenceman Chris Butler and centre Paul Byron the Flames have changed their direction with having defense first defensemen.

Kipper hung on for 2 seasons and then whatever Flame goalie that was brought in was pretty much completely responsible for preventing goals scored on the team. The Flames team defense has create a goalie grave yard. Kipper would have looked average playing behind any team after Regehr was gone and the Flames went to a small, no contact, puck moving model of defense.

That was a philosophy or strategy change that changed the focus and left the goalie as the primary hero responsible for carrying the team defensively.

Here is the list of Flames goalies since Regher and the philosophy that he represented were dumped.

Player - GS - Sv% - GAA
David Rittich - 115 - 0.908 - 2.83
Karri Ramo - 106 - 0.911 - 2.63
Mike Smith - 95 - 0.909 - 2.68
Miikka Kiprusoff - 92 - 0.911 - 2.62
Jonas Hiller - 67 - 0.905 - 2.73
Brian Elliott - 45 - 0.91 - 2.55
Chad Johnson - 36 - 0.91 - 2.59
Joni Ortio - 34 - 0.901 - 2.66
Reto Berra - 27 - 0.897 - 2.95
Joey MacDonald - 26 - 0.898 - 2.88
Cam Talbot - 22 - 0.919 - 2.63
Jacob Markstrom - 17 - 0.907 - 2.88
Leland Irving - 12 - 0.902 - 3.25
Jon Gillies - 10 - 0.903 - 2.71
Henrik Karlsson - 7 - 0.9 - 3.17
Niklas Backstrom - 3 - 0.881 - 3.35
Daniel Taylor - 2 - 0.912 - 3
Eddie Lack - 2 - 0.813 - 5.29
Artyom Zagidulin - 0 - 0.818 - 4.25
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