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Old 03-09-2021, 02:21 PM   #1403
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Is this fact? Because this seems very anecdotal.

In Hartley’s final season in 15-16, he lead the team to a 25th place finish. There certainly weren’t enough comebacks that season.

In Bill Peters final season right before his departure, his team was struggling mightily to score and sat at an equally disappointing record of 12-12-4. Once again, not enough comebacks in there.

Quite simply put, this is a team of coach killers. They help their coach make the playoffs one season and then falter badly the next season. They’re an easily satisfied bunch without a ton to offer their opponent. If Sutter can fix this core’s problem from year to year, then he truly is an elite coach.
I love the coach killer narrative.

Because really it's just shooting/save percentage differences. Prior to this season this was a team that got bottom third of the league goaltending consistently, but their shooting percentage was sporadic.

2014/2015: Corsi For: 46.8% (26th), Shooting Percentage: 10.5% (2nd), Save Percentage: .911 (16th)

2015/2016: 49.1% (20th), 9.55% (6th), .892 (30th) - Goaltending is what got Hartley Fired

2016/2017: 50.4% (12th), 9.3% (15th), .907 (21st)

2017/2018: 53.1% (2nd), 7.8% (29th), .905 (21st) - Shooting and save percentage cratered

2018/2019: 53.8% (4th), 10.9% (3rd), .903 (21st)

2019/2020 (Peters): 50.8% (11th), 7.58 (29th), .905 (16th) - Shooting percentage combined with racism got him fired

I left the stats under Ward out because honestly it's kind of the same story where the shooting percentage has dropped of this year. But to me this is the first coach I think they truly quit on.

Under Hartley they just didn't have a very good team top to bottom yet and got the worst goaltending in the league that year.

With Gulutzan they just didn't get any puck luck, but their underlying and advanced metrics were great.

In year one under Peters it all came together. Great advanced metrics combined with good shooting percentage but still below average goaltending, and they finished 2nd in the league.

Then under Peters to start the year the next year the shooting percentage cratered and he was fired for non-hockey related reasons.

So I don't fully believe this is a team of coach killers going back to their entire tenure here, outside of Maybe Ward who I do think they might have given up on.

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