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Originally Posted by nfotiu
People need some desperate help to get their life back on track. Getting $2000 to cover overdue bills is not going to make much of a dent in that. I don't know why right now is the magic date. This pandemic has been going on for over a year. My message has always been the same. Get the people who are hurting $10,000 even if it takes an extra month or two to figure it out. Giving everyone $2000 now takes away that ability.
The whole $1400 or $2000 idea should be scrapped. That's a huge pool of money that can be better spent to actually really help people who need it. There's a limit to how much is the right amount of money to borrow and put back in the economy without starting to create problems. This bill is already probably over that, so there is not going to be another chance to spend this much money.
Can somebody explain what problem is being solved by sending $2000 as a one time payment to everyone? I see it as a slap in the face to the people who really need help.
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I understand this, but you realise $10,000 to people is not on the table, right? That's not what is up for grabs here?
Sure, it's a slap in the face, sure it's not enough. But it is what it is. We're talking about reality here, not what we wish reality was. The reality is that $1400 is on the table, and everything they are doing is further delaying those that need it from getting it, and ensuring some people who need it won't.
So yes, there is an alternate reality where it is better. But it's not on the table.
That's why you disputing everything who is getting annoyed at this makes little sense. Your reasons for this actually being a good thing are not real. They are not delaying this to give an extra $8600 to people. That is not what is happening. You're debating theoreticals, we're talking about reality. So you really have no right to do the moral posturing thing when your view on this is based on fantasy. It's the equivalent to "why are we coming up with new cancer treatments when we should be focused on curing cancer? I would just cure cancer! you think you're doing anyone a favour by just treating their symptoms??" Like, cool, great, but that's a bit out of touch and you can see why it's hard to believe you actually care about affected people in a meaningful way.
And, for the record, at least some of the people discussing this in this thread are American and/or have family living in America. This isn't just a bunch of Canadians.