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Originally Posted by Infinit47

We had to wait to hire him until after he was fired for 4 years of no playoffs in Carolina. Their team got better as soon as he left.

I guess he is established the same way Gulutzan would be if someone else now hired him as a head coach. I did say earlier that I felt both Peters and Gulutzan were competent coaches, but I doubt either one would challenge Trelieving in the same way a Torts, Vingneualt, Boudreau, Gallant, or Babcock (for examples) would.

I don't think it's a money thing with owners, I don't think it's that hard to get a single winning coach here, so the only thing left is that Trelieving doesn't want someone who will challenge his empire. You see this all the time with terrible managers in Oil and Gas, and it's exactly what the Ward 2 year contract looked like to me.

I'll say this about 2 year contracts, I don't think you can really sign a coach to a 1 year contract and be a lame duck coach. So 2 years is really the bare minimum and also speaks volumes about how confident Treliving was in Ward. The question is, what's taking Tre so long to act now? Or maybe his power is being taken away from him to act. Maybe the owners have seen enough?