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Originally Posted by ComixZone
There's no guarantees in it.
Does it give you the best shot, especially with talk revolving around shuffling how the lottery works to give better odds to the bottom teams again? Yeah, it absolutely does.
Yeah, I don't think this fan base is impatient at all. We're frustrated because we're being sold a pile of crap that hasn't meaningfully changed in years, and we're being asked to stomach sub-NHL quality coaching. Sell us hope. Sell us an actual process.
What the hell has Treliving's process been? Panic early in the rebuild and trade for a 2nd pairing defenceman? Acquire a cornerstone piece in Hamilton, but then flip him because he doesn't fit in with the established losing culture? Rush prospects into the league, pay for spare parts between the pipes. Treliving's process doesn't exist. It's literally "spend in free agency on whatever crap is laying around, bank on a core that isn't made up of elite pieces, and hire an AHL/ECHL quality head coach".
Babock's recent interview put some light on Toronto's process. It was all about tanking, and it actually worked for them in one season. That's crazy levels of luck - but had they not gotten Matthews, would they not have just kept on trying for Hischier/Patrick and then again on Dahlin?
Build an actual process. We've got a new arena on the horizon. Sell us on hope going into that building. Rip this thing down, communicate that the team sees it as a 3-year process, invest in a coach to be a cornerstone piece, and get the hell to work.
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I just don’t agree with this at all. While I understand what you are saying you can’t turn this thing around in 3 years like you suggest and really expect it to be much better than it is now.
I also disagree about the process piece you say the Flames didn’t have. I have made the comparison that the “find a way Flames” team was similar to emergency recall Baertschi. The expectations were raised too high too quickly. When Hamilton was added and then moved it made perfect sense to me from a rebuilding perspective. Tkachuk’s rookie year they make the playoffs and Treliving made what I think was his worst personnel move as a GM which was the Hamonic trade. I know the organization viewed him as a top pairing Dman and basically wanted to roll out 2 top pairings especially since they were facing McDavid a bunch. Horrible pro scouting and the move crippled the rebuild. I thought pivoting after that year and moving Ferland and Hamilton for Lindholm and Hanifin was great as the team moved a 2 players aged 25/26 and a prospect who refused to sign for a 23 and 21 year old. Somewhat reset the rebuild and acquired arguably our best player in Lindholm.
Once the team responded with 107pts they were all in to win. This looks to be the second year they took a step back so maybe the Flames pick high this year, trwde Gaudreau and Monahan but I don’t want them to go into tank mode. They can pivot and still push forward with Lindholm, Tkachuk, Mangiapane, Dube, Hanifin, Andersson, Valimaki and Markstrom.