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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
It is a results-based business. It has been 7 years. Do you give him 8? 10? 15? At what point do you say that it is time to try someone different? I don't know what the answer is exactly, but just because a GM makes more good moves than bad ones (at least in my opinion), it doesn't mean he is the right person for the job any longer. I am not on the bandwagon to fire him at all. I don't think that there really should be a bandwagon yet. However, the needle sure seems to be going the wrong way for him at the moment.
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FWIW, Cliff Fletcher was hired in 1972, and until the team moved to Calgary in 1980 never won a playoff round. But we know how that ultimately worked out.
Maybe that's just ancient history (no cap, no analytics), and no longer relevant...but I've always wondered if NHL GM's need a leash measured longer than most. In 7 years, the players you draft in year one should be at apex, so it feels as though even judging there seems like it could be premature.
You can look at UFA's and trades over that time as well - but the majority of UFA's wind up being a boondoggle, and there aren't many non-money trades anymore.
Treliving has made mistakes. The question is if you think he's learning from them, and if he's going to repeat them? The Ward hiring feels a lot like he failed that test, as he had much the same in Gully.