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Old 02-23-2021, 11:18 PM   #366
Igottago
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Originally Posted by stone hands View Post
if you want to value a first round playoff win against a canucks team who was doing their best 2011 calgary flames impression over a team that got first in the west and really was one of the most dominant teams in the entire nhl all season then go ahead, but i actually remember the games that hartley coached and that was not pretty or exciting unless you only watched the last 2 minutes of about 13 games that they won after being dominated night after night

The Flames that beat Vancouver were not a great team, and i'm not arguing they were. It makes what Hartley achieved with them even more remarkable. He got them to over-perform. The other iterations of the the team have all under-performed, being further along in the rebuild. The dominant Flames team that got first in the west under performed badly come crunch time, and haven't been the same since.

My opinion only, and it might be crazy..the objective of an NHL team is to win a Stanley cup. Getting closer to that objective is often, if not always, better than being further away from it.

Like I said, its not that Hartley's accomplishments were amazing (they were given the Flames pathetic playoff history), but I'm still eagerly awaiting for someone to do better.
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