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Calgary4LIfe · 02-23-2021, 02:26 PM

For Eichel, there won't be a single piece in the organization that the Flames could possibly say no to. Valimaki, Gaudreau, Lindholm, etc. I am not even sure how high that package would be, but it would be a huge package. I think Eichel is a relative bargain contract in comparison to some 'superstar' contracts being handed out (he makes just 1 million bucks more than his team mate Skinner).

I wonder what a legitimate package would look like. Just as interestingly, I wonder what that package looks like with Skinner. Curious to see how much the package would decrease by (and I think a LOT). I think it would devalue the deal so much that I wouldn't know where to start in balancing out the cap hit (and I assume Lucic wouldn't waive to go to Buffalo).

Monahan + Ryan +1st for Eichel and Skinner. Money doesn't balance out. You still have to add basically 9 million (Skinner's salary) to the deal, and I don't think I would want to add more than that.

Is the gap between Eichel and Monahan worth a first and 9 million worth of practical dead cap space for 6 more years after this season (seeing Monahan + Ryan is just shy of Eichel's cap hit).

Once again, there is no way that Lucic is going to waive to go to Buffalo.

I would not want to add more to Monahan + Ryan + 1st if Skinner is coming along.

Would be fricken amazing if that was the deal, AND Skinner rebounded into a 60pt + player. That's a Stanley Cup winning move. What is more likely to happen is that Skinner ties Calgary's hands in making needed moves and re-signing key players to build a contender, and Calgary just continues spinning their wheels.

That Skinner contract is something awful, and I am not sure how to make that contract work work on the cap - assuming Buffalo doesn't agree to retain the max amount of 50%.

Monahan + Hanifin + Ryan + 1st for Eichel + Skinner (50% retained) = that's about as far as I go, as I think Skinner is looking like he may just be out of the league. I guess it depends on how poorly you view him as. I see a 4.5 dead cap hit for 6 more seasons as being difficult to manage on a cup-contending team. Tampa wasn't able to unload Tyler Johnson for free for 5.25 (I think??) on waivers, even though he is a very useful player. 4.5 of dead cap is a LOT to work around.

02-23-2021, 02:26 PM	#7646
Calgary4LIfe Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2010 Exp:	For Eichel, there won't be a single piece in the organization that the Flames could possibly say no to. Valimaki, Gaudreau, Lindholm, etc. I am not even sure how high that package would be, but it would be a huge package. I think Eichel is a relative bargain contract in comparison to some 'superstar' contracts being handed out (he makes just 1 million bucks more than his team mate Skinner). I wonder what a legitimate package would look like. Just as interestingly, I wonder what that package looks like with Skinner. Curious to see how much the package would decrease by (and I think a LOT). I think it would devalue the deal so much that I wouldn't know where to start in balancing out the cap hit (and I assume Lucic wouldn't waive to go to Buffalo). Monahan + Ryan +1st for Eichel and Skinner. Money doesn't balance out. You still have to add basically 9 million (Skinner's salary) to the deal, and I don't think I would want to add more than that. Is the gap between Eichel and Monahan worth a first and 9 million worth of practical dead cap space for 6 more years after this season (seeing Monahan + Ryan is just shy of Eichel's cap hit). Once again, there is no way that Lucic is going to waive to go to Buffalo. I would not want to add more to Monahan + Ryan + 1st if Skinner is coming along. Would be fricken amazing if that was the deal, AND Skinner rebounded into a 60pt + player. That's a Stanley Cup winning move. What is more likely to happen is that Skinner ties Calgary's hands in making needed moves and re-signing key players to build a contender, and Calgary just continues spinning their wheels. That Skinner contract is something awful, and I am not sure how to make that contract work work on the cap - assuming Buffalo doesn't agree to retain the max amount of 50%. Monahan + Hanifin + Ryan + 1st for Eichel + Skinner (50% retained) = that's about as far as I go, as I think Skinner is looking like he may just be out of the league. I guess it depends on how poorly you view him as. I see a 4.5 dead cap hit for 6 more seasons as being difficult to manage on a cup-contending team. Tampa wasn't able to unload Tyler Johnson for free for 5.25 (I think??) on waivers, even though he is a very useful player. 4.5 of dead cap is a LOT to work around.