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Originally Posted by Bingo
I like Trelving, I wouldn't fire him.
But I get that some want him gone.
If I like the way a GM approaches things I'd rather keep him. I realize I won't like every move he makes, but more often than not I see what he's trying to do, and agree with the model on paper.
But on the ice it hasn't worked.
If you would have told me 3 years ago that Sean Monahan and Johnny Gaudreau shouldn't be 2/3 of a top line I wouldn't have believed you. It just hasn't worked.
I personally don't blame the GM for that fact, and with that being the biggest issue in what he built not working I don't see that as a flawed GM and a necessary firing.
The coaching choices have been mired for sure, but then I think that also rolls into the core and the core not being what it should have been. Doesn't mean they were the right choices necessarily, but the impact on the coaching is certainly a factor.
But GMs and coaches are all hired to be fired, and that day will come.
Wouldn't be now for me, but I certainly don't see it as insanity to think differently.
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I can respect this opinion and I understand that some fear that the next guy may not be better but that mentality buys you eternal mediocrity. He hasn't been a disaster like Chiarelli or anything but the coaching hires are a deal breaker for me and Ward was the final straw. I have my theories about Treliving when it comes to coaches in that the Tippett vs Maloney power struggle left a mark on him but it's just a theory but there is definitely something up with his coaching hires as he's not even interviewed a single head coach that was considered one of the best available candidates or a strong up and comer outside of Travis Green. Maybe he wants a guy that will not have the clout to step on his toes or maybe he's got this smartest man in the room thing where he wants to unearth the next great coach. Regardless I have no faith in him ever getting the coach right which means the organization is doomed to fail in their quest for a Stanley Cup as long as he's GM. He needs to go.
All of that said I would hire him as an Assistant GM in a heartbeat as to me this is his calling. Doing all the legwork like phone calls, contract negotiations, draft input, etc. What GM wouldn't want him as his right hand man knowing his work ethic? He just isn't cut out to make the final call on some of the major decisions a GM needs to make. Great AGM, mediocre GM.