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Originally Posted by Jacks
I'm not going back and researching what every GM inherited, and why qualify that statement with "team in a rebuild"?
Look at the most recent GM's.
Hextal - been on the job for less than a month, maybe he turns it around but the Pens are on the decline.
Armstrong - Coyotes are a disaster, he was left a huge mess.
Zito - Don't really follow Florida, looks like they are doing well. Have at least one huge bad contract.
Adams - Buffalo is a dysfunctional team and has bad contracts.
NJ and Vegas are pretty good situations.
MIN is treading water and pretty much sucks.
Holland walked into a mess in EDM.
Yzerman walked into Holland's mess in DET.
Treliving walked into a team with no large contracts, tons of cap space, lots of draft picks and some good/great young players to start with. Pretty good way to start.
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The statement “why in a rebuild” is to try and make an apples to apples comparison. Comparing situations where a GM didn’t need to tear a team down or try and keep winning which is why most of those examples are so simple to pick apart.
Hextal - not a rebuild and has one of the best players of all time on his roster
Armstrong- easily the best example as he is in a horrible market with brutal owners and is a complete mess
Zito- Barkov, Huberdeau, Ekblad all in their prime is a great starting point
Adam’s- Jack Eichel, Rasmus Dahlen, Dylan Cozens, plus several other high end young pieces. Franchise center and Dman with some bad contracts trumps a clean slate
Holland - Walks into McDavid and Draisaitl sporting 7 and 6 years left on their contracts when he joins. Would you rather have 2 Hart winners locked up long term with some bad contracts or would you rather have a clean slate?
Yzerman basically had the same setup as Treliving in Calgary. Worse veterans but a clean cap sheet and recent high picks
Guerin in Minny is a pretty bad spot as well
I agree Treliving walked into a good spot for a GM. Wideman was a bad contract but he had a career year for one season which happened to be Treliving’s first season. Matt Stajan was also a bad contract with 4 years of term so right there we have over $8.5M in bad deals that he inherited. He still took over a team that was 1.5 seasons into a rebuild, that watched their previous stars leave for nothing, and guided that team to the playoffs for 4 of 6 seasons when the previous 2 regimes missed the playoffs 5 years in a row.
I don’t believe Treliving has created any kid of mess like you proclaimed and my only gripe with him has been the coaching hires. He has made some bad trades but name a GM that hasn’t?