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Originally Posted by Psytic
Both the Leafs and Wings have better high end horses than the Flames ever will be in this current cycle and are / were before a more desirable FA and grey beard destination. Who knows if Babcock really had to do anything or if the HoF team just ran it for him. We dont have a HoF team or even a Top 5 skill team. Is it just buy in or is it a combination of buy in, square peg round hole, lack of high end talent and IQ. This team isnt skilled enough and doesnt have high enough IQ to be shoe horned into any system and succeed imo.
When your a 1B roster and a 2 tier living destination you need to be more creative and get good at something. They aren't hard to play against. They aren't suffocating on D. Half the supporting cast I would describe as being on the slower side currently. We aren't beating teams on pure skill and IQ that much is for certain (although they keep being quoted in the media is thinking they can just come back whenever). So either support Johnny, Dube etc. ,the horses you have with more speed to play their game or get guys that play this Coyote ugly 2012 style you want (not saying I want it).
Ward could come out tomorrow and say guys I admit it I don't know what i'm doing and start coaching them to play like Peters and then they get exposed again by faster teams in the PO until they commit to the personnel to match the system. They need a proven Motivator for a Coach (Not Ward) with a system that's tailored to the star hand they were dealt or trade them for ones that fit and supported by players that work in the system they want to play imo.
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I’m not comparing the Flames to either the Wings or the Leafs. I’m saying Babcock went from a genius to a stiff by changing teams. Pre-Leaf Babcock is what fans here are asking for. There are definitely seasoned coaches that have been hired and taken their success to new teams - Trotz, Q, Sutter, Torts, Vigneault and Boudreau to a degree. There are also newbies with little or no experience that work out fine - Cooper, Sullivan. And guys who have been career ACs who get some success like Bowness. Or guys like Gallant who had terrible records and suddenly strike gold with a particular team.
The point I agree with is that, for whatever reason, Ward can’t get them to play his system, whether that system is right or wrong.