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Originally Posted by Macho0978
Even if it isn't in the cards for the Flames to have a MacKinnon or McDavid at center, doesn't mean we don't have to beat these teams to win the cup. You still have to get past these teams to win the cup
I agree that teams can build great teams like St Louis and Vegas have that don't have high end generational talents and are better than the teams that do. But to say we have no reason why we can't be that good isn't accurate. I gave 2 and to me there 4.
1. Gio is 37 turning 38 this year. He was hands down our best dman and now he is just one of the bunch. Nobody has stepped up to take that role from him.
2. Lucic is one of the worst contracts in the league. We don't have the depth we need to beat top teams because we have a $5.25 mill forward who is a 4th liner these days.
3. Bennett situation is a distraction. He has very little trade value but there seems to be an issue with him and I'm not sure it gets fixed until he is traded.
4. Our prospect pool isn't very good. Zary and Pelletier are good but they may be a couple years away. Vegas has added Glass this year who is better than anyone we have in our system. Nice to add guys like that when you land Pietrangelo via free agency. The blues have added Kyrou to the mix. We have added Valimaki and he looks good but d take longer to impact the team and these teams are already better than we are.
I like this core still but IMO we need to be building for next year and take this year to fix some issues.
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Blow it up and keep drafting 1st until we fall ass backwards into the next Crosby or McDavid? It simply wont happen with this mgmt. Im not saying its not a good idea it obviously is a way to get a cost controlled allstar (although not guaranteed). Will that ever happen with this ownership and mgmt ? Not a chance. Hasn't been that way in 40 yrs.
The best we can hope for is to be the old Sharks. Im just being realistic. This group will never ever ever commit to a full rebuild for more than 2 or 3 yrs. even if we did the chances of the Flames getting a McDavid over another Bennett is pretty slim with how things have gone for them. Id love them to get an all star C and build from the ground up but it isnt going to happen.
Best use of our collective minds imo is to find a way to get at least somewhat competitive past the 2nd round through star trades / re-tool (they wont tank for more than 2 years tops which probably gets us back to being a 1 st round team in another 7 yrs again rinse / repeat).
My expectations are so tempered by this team I would cry tears of joy just being like the Sharks before they imploded. Just hanging around and being "good" year after year.
Edit: This was really in response to the other Oilers post not this one i'm quoting, I think we basically agree.