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Old 02-22-2021, 09:39 AM   #596
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Everything points to Treliving's ego. You don't make the same mistake over and over again unless you are incredibly stupid or arrogant. Treliving isn't stupid. He just has to be the smartest guy in the room which is why he won't even talk to an experienced guy. Seriously, Trelving hasn't even reached out to the experienced guys that have been available. They all say that the Calgary Flames have not reached out to them. That is a guy not wanting to bring in someone that has the gravitas who could challenge him or question the job he was doing. There is no way in hell you continue to reach into the minor leagues when you have proven NHL coaches available, but Treliving has done it for seven multiple hires. You tell me what the issue could be here. And it is not like these coaches do not recognize that this is a game of musical chairs and when a seat is open you jump on it. Suggesting they will roll the dice until "next year" for a coaching gig is ridiculous.
First bolded is patently false. I know this for a fact.

And he didnt reach into the minor leagues for Ward...he was already standing behind the bench of the team with a lot of NHL coaching experience on his resume, a winning record after being promoted to HC, and a series win against the Jets.

Keeping Ward was niether a stretch to see happen nor unexpected among NHL circles particularly with what was happening in the world.

Now...is Ward the right guy for this team or even any team? Who knows? There just isnt enough data to make that determination yet so its hard to say definitively either way. I would suggest that giving him at least a season worth of games would be the bare minimum before making a decision how good or bad he is.

I do know that there are, literally, years of data on the main guys pulling that jersey over their heads every game, and that data suggests they are not good enough to do much of anything more than what they have accomplished...or not accomplished.

As always its a results oriented business and both the coaching staff and the players should be judged on such...but you best have enough results to make a determination. We definitely have that on one side of this debate but certainly not on the other.....in my opinion.

People think I'm a "Coaching apologist" which to me is pretty funny. Im not. Moreso, and especially with this club i think some continuity/stability is imperative after the events of last year.

I do know that coaching is a pretty fluid type of profession where, if in the right spot with the right group, guys all of a sudden look like the next coming of Scotty bowman only to disappear in short order.

Other guys look like they couldnt coach a hungry dog across a room with a slab of roast beef in their hands at first, but given time lots of those guys see what they are preaching/selling start to be bought into by the players and eventually things start to click.

Treliving has made mistakes and to me the single biggest is the construction of this roster and he can blame no one but himself for that. Im leaning more towards his time here (while pretty good) is becoming clearly not god enough.
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