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RT14 · 02-21-2021, 03:29 AM

I still don’t feel like Treliving is the problem but if he doesn’t make some major changes soon then he’s going to have to go whether he’s to blame or not because it’s easier for a new GM to cut ties with our top players than the GM who has built relationships with them. The fact that it’s widely known he is one of, if not the, most active GM’s in the league as far as exploring all trade options is something I value greatly because I yearned for an active GM for my entire Flames fan life. And until now, I’ve always respected his ability to draw a hard line in the sand as far as what assets he’s willing to give up in so many of the potential trades we were in on after seeing what teams we lost out to ended up giving up. I mean, what more could you ask for? A GM that explores everything but won’t be taken advantage of is generally a great thing and quite rare. Also, he has always managed to resign our players to at worst reasonable deals, and often surprisingly amazing deals.

That said, his coaching hires have sucked and his free agent signings have been hit and miss, but none of the negatives have been sure fire mistakes until things didn’t work out down the road. There was a lot of evidence that Neal would be a great signing at the time given his track record, for example. Even what I would consider his biggest blunder at this point in extending Ward full time, I can understand given how the players seemed to enjoy playing for him at first because there was a strong feeling that this group just needed a coach that would let them play their style without holding them back and coming down so hard on them. But at this point it’s obvious he is not at the level of other NHL coaches.

I say give him another shot, but on a short leash. He gets one more coaching hire and it better be someone with pedigree, and he has to suck it up and overpay on a major trade to shake things up. You can’t lose more trades than you win, but if you lose the one that gets you a star player for the franchise and someone to build around and break even or win most others while drafting and developing well, you’ll be better off in the end.

02-21-2021, 03:29 AM	#108
RT14 First Line Centre Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Dead Rear, AB Exp:	I still don’t feel like Treliving is the problem but if he doesn’t make some major changes soon then he’s going to have to go whether he’s to blame or not because it’s easier for a new GM to cut ties with our top players than the GM who has built relationships with them. The fact that it’s widely known he is one of, if not the, most active GM’s in the league as far as exploring all trade options is something I value greatly because I yearned for an active GM for my entire Flames fan life. And until now, I’ve always respected his ability to draw a hard line in the sand as far as what assets he’s willing to give up in so many of the potential trades we were in on after seeing what teams we lost out to ended up giving up. I mean, what more could you ask for? A GM that explores everything but won’t be taken advantage of is generally a great thing and quite rare. Also, he has always managed to resign our players to at worst reasonable deals, and often surprisingly amazing deals. That said, his coaching hires have sucked and his free agent signings have been hit and miss, but none of the negatives have been sure fire mistakes until things didn’t work out down the road. There was a lot of evidence that Neal would be a great signing at the time given his track record, for example. Even what I would consider his biggest blunder at this point in extending Ward full time, I can understand given how the players seemed to enjoy playing for him at first because there was a strong feeling that this group just needed a coach that would let them play their style without holding them back and coming down so hard on them. But at this point it’s obvious he is not at the level of other NHL coaches. I say give him another shot, but on a short leash. He gets one more coaching hire and it better be someone with pedigree, and he has to suck it up and overpay on a major trade to shake things up. You can’t lose more trades than you win, but if you lose the one that gets you a star player for the franchise and someone to build around and break even or win most others while drafting and developing well, you’ll be better off in the end.