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FlamesAddiction · 02-20-2021, 02:33 PM

Raising minimum wage right now is just a bad idea. With so many small businesses barely getting by, it would kill a lot of them. It would also force many to avoid it by hiring illegals or paying people under the table. If that happens on a large enough scale, you get Greece. For bigger businesses, it would push many over the edge to the point they see more long term benefit in switching to automation. Not to mention the chain reaction it has on all salaries and inflation.

Promising to substantially raise minimum wage was a bad promise to make and if he did it, I can guarantee you that the Republicans would win in a landslide next time. It was low hanging fruit to buy votes.

I get that they need to help people who live in poverty, but 90% of the people who make minimum wage do not live in poverty when you look at their situations (being youths or supplemented by a higher income partner), and those few extra bucks are not enough to lift people who really need it. Ontario raised it substantially a few years ago and it did absolutely nothing to help poverty.

The real issue is the system itself. Letting supply and demand dictate prices for most things makes stuff too expensive, including many things that are necessities, or have become necessary to compete in life. Some #### does not need to be as expensive as it is and there needs to be a way to regulate it better so people who make minimum wage can live. Things like utilities, food, education/training, rent, transportation, and even cell phones and computers (try keeping a job or going to school without one), need to be affordable for everyone. Bring those prices down, but don't punish every small business that is already barely getting by. People would be surprised how many small business owners actually make less than their minimum wage employees and how many actually have to use the food bank. Poverty isn't always easily noticed.

Sorry, a little OT here, but minimum wage hikes do not solve anything long term and Biden should not have promised it, but he would be even stupider to follow through with the nation-wide hike he promised. Minimum wage hikes are in fact counter to leftist ideals when you think about it. You know by giving the poor more money, the rich and powerful are just going to find a way to make it come to them eventually anyway if there is no cost control.

02-20-2021, 02:33 PM	#1284
FlamesAddiction Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Vancouver Exp:	Raising minimum wage right now is just a bad idea. With so many small businesses barely getting by, it would kill a lot of them. It would also force many to avoid it by hiring illegals or paying people under the table. If that happens on a large enough scale, you get Greece. For bigger businesses, it would push many over the edge to the point they see more long term benefit in switching to automation. Not to mention the chain reaction it has on all salaries and inflation. Promising to substantially raise minimum wage was a bad promise to make and if he did it, I can guarantee you that the Republicans would win in a landslide next time. It was low hanging fruit to buy votes. I get that they need to help people who live in poverty, but 90% of the people who make minimum wage do not live in poverty when you look at their situations (being youths or supplemented by a higher income partner), and those few extra bucks are not enough to lift people who really need it. Ontario raised it substantially a few years ago and it did absolutely nothing to help poverty. The real issue is the system itself. Letting supply and demand dictate prices for most things makes stuff too expensive, including many things that are necessities, or have become necessary to compete in life. Some #### does not need to be as expensive as it is and there needs to be a way to regulate it better so people who make minimum wage can live. Things like utilities, food, education/training, rent, transportation, and even cell phones and computers (try keeping a job or going to school without one), need to be affordable for everyone. Bring those prices down, but don't punish every small business that is already barely getting by. People would be surprised how many small business owners actually make less than their minimum wage employees and how many actually have to use the food bank. Poverty isn't always easily noticed. Sorry, a little OT here, but minimum wage hikes do not solve anything long term and Biden should not have promised it, but he would be even stupider to follow through with the nation-wide hike he promised. Minimum wage hikes are in fact counter to leftist ideals when you think about it. You know by giving the poor more money, the rich and powerful are just going to find a way to make it come to them eventually anyway if there is no cost control. __________________ "A pessimist thinks things can't get any worse. An optimist knows they can." Last edited by FlamesAddiction; 02-20-2021 at 03:25 PM.