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Originally Posted by Aarongavey
Do you think Brad has built a winning team in the last 6 years?
I will concede he has done something, if you take 16/17 as the starting point he has. I was wrong on that point and concede it.
On paper he has somewhere between the 3rd and 5th best group of forwards on paper in the North Division, he has a top 3 defence and one of the top 2 goalies in the division. There is a pretty significant gap up front between the Flames and the Leafs for instance On paper it looks like a team that should make the playoffs and be first round fodder for someone to me. I am not sure on paper it looks like a winning lineup. I have a hard time looking at the Flames on paper and credibly thinking they are a top 10 team in the NHL or even a top 2 team in the North.
I feel he has not and does not know how to build a winner. On that I guess we disagree, you feel he has built a winner or can build a winners.
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We're pretty much coming to an agreement.
I think building hockey teams is difficult, and the biggest issue with this team not being a contender is the lack of playoff ability of what should have been the team's best two players.
If they continued on their projection the team would have two star players, and the addition of depth around it.
So there is plenty to poke at with any GM, and Treliving has his mistakes. But I have for the most part seen what he's been trying to do, and it made sense to me.
Some of the parts plateaued which I didn't see coming either.