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Originally Posted by Major Major
When we are talking about a divide in the room in how guys envision the team playing, are we not talking about coaching? Frankly, bringing up Iginla vs Regehr as Rhett does this morning just hits home the point that they've had the same GD problem for 15 years. Do you think there is any question of how the team played under Sutter? Do you think it was a conversation at the end of the game? I wanna play like this, no I wanna play like this! The team ran Playfair, Keenan, Brent, Glue Gun and now Geoff Ward.
How could you look at what Ward has done and have any confidence that he can set the direction for the team? He just keeps bungling. It is the same, flimsy ass milk toast players coach themselves that has permeated this team for the better part of 2 decades. If Sutter came in and the talk in the room was, "these guys are too rough and those guys aren't defensive enough and this group doesn't like the coaches breakout so they do their own..."
Fire his ass and bring in someone that the players know by reputation that they will buy in or they will be punted into the sun.
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Who’s even available at the moment? How much does this coach even differ than any other coach right now? What even defines a good coach, past success? If that’s the case, then it’s really a chicken or the egg theory: does the coach make the players or do the players make the coach?
I’m probably one of the few people here who believes the players on this team are the bigger problem than the coach. This isn’t like a video game where we control the players’ movement and what plays to make or when to take a shot. This is mostly on the players, they’ve played the game long enough to know what success and failure looks like. Why is it mostly on the coach if a player doesn’t show up to play? If that player isn’t motivated enough by his ice time and his production and ultimately his money, then this guy doesn’t even deserve an NHL job.
The system in my opinion is on the GM. He interviewed the candidates, he picked the coach that would play out his vision and I believe it’s Brad Treliving that picked this complicated and overtaxing system for the group of players he has assembled. It requires hard work and a lot of attention to detail which this roster can’t care enough to pull off most nights. That’s unfortunately on Treliving. I know he’s a likable GM, very hard working and he has done a lot of good things, but it’s ultimately his vision and there’s been very little to no progression since the day he was basically hired.