[rogermexico]

That segment from Rhett was really something and it's worth taking a listen to once they post it on the podcast.

This is my Coles notes version from what I remember:
He talked about the divide on the Flames teams he was on between the offence-first forwards and the defence-first group. He was very deliberate to emphasize that it's not like they didn't respect or like each-other – they all got along, it was more a matter of, after a loss, Rhett and Reg and Kipper would say 'We could have won that game if there was a bit more back-checking' and Iggy and Tanguay would say 'We could have won that game if the D had got the puck up to us a bit quicker so we could score some goals.' Rhett said something to the effect of 'Both sides were probably right, but the problem was, we were never in agreement and pulling in the same direction.'

They talked about the current team and they quickly got to Tkachuk, the Muzzin thing, etc. They made it clear they were speculating. But Rhett started to get pretty passionate. He basically said 'If there is a group in the dressing room that wants Tkachuk to dial it back, and isn't willing to play with that edge, then shame on them. And if Tkachuk is pouting or not trying for whatever reason, then shame on him.'

He said, and I'm roughly paraphrasing from memory here, that what it looks like to him is that there are too many players that just don't care.

Pinder said something along the lines of 'You can't fix that – there's too many of them, it's not like you can ship them all out.'

And Rhett disagreed. He said 'You don't ship them all out - you identify the biggest problem in the leadership group, and you get rid of that person. Move them out. Lose the trade. Don't worry about the return - what matters is getting rid of someone and sending the message that the other guys that don't care won't be sheltered anymore.'

There was a really interesting moment. He got really emotional about it, and said something along the lines of 'Because what does it matter if you don't win? I was on some really good Flames teams but it didn't matter because we never won. Who remembers the 07/08 Flames?'

Anyway that's a rough re-telling. Go back and listen to it though, because it was quite a segment.