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Old 02-18-2021, 01:07 AM   #203
GioforPM
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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18 View Post
Plus this idea that this team has been broken for a long time is so flawed. The team has made substantial changes over the last 2 1/2 seasons.

Look back at the end of the 17-18 roster and the changes since then of “core” (longer than 1 year deals) on this roster:

Here in 17-18: Gio, Backlund, Monahan, Gaudreau, Tkachuk, Bennett

New since then: Lindholm, Mangiapane, Dube, Lucic, Hanifin, Tanev, Andersson, Valimaki, Markstrom

Only 6 guys are still the same from those years! We’ve turned over 75% of the roster.

This isn’t the same team. This is a better team than Hartley had, this is a better team than Gulutzan had, this is a better team than Peters had.

Sure the players aren’t perfect but Ward is getting less out of a better roster than any of his predecessors did before him. The guy is just not an NHL coach.
Maybe, but Hartley (in his one good year) had playoff Ferland, Hudler, Wideman in a weird career year, Brodie, prime Gio, close to a career year for Hiller. You can’t ignore the deletions. It’s a better team, but maybe some intangibles were lost too. Engelland, Stajan, were 100% guys with or without Hartley.

Ward isn’t a very good coach. But I think this is more on the players.
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