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Originally Posted by midniteowl
I have heard so much about coach killing players, for argument sake, exactly which good coach has this group killed? What the team have actually is an egg and chicken problem. Without a legitimate coach, doesn't really matter what star player the team have. The Penguins had Crosby, Malkin and Staal, the one, two, three punch and couldn't go anywhere in the playoff until they got rid of Johnston. So I really believe get the coach first, if that doesn't work, then get the players according to the coach.
/my 2 cents
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If you believe the rumours, a couple of core young players pressured Treliving to replace Hartley because he was too mean. Say what you want about him, but the results he got ranged from expected for a rebuilding team to above what was expected. He will probably be the last Jack Adams winning head coach the Flames have in a long time.
Treliving then brought in a player's coach for boys. If you believe Burke, the players used that opportunity to run amuck. Was he a good coaching hire for a head coach... probably not. But I don't think he had a chance. If the first rumour is true, the players had all the power at that point.
Treliving then brings in another disciplinarian coach in Peters. He actually got decent results for a while, but prior to his firing for unrelated matters, the team was already starting to tune him out it seemed. I recall many people thinking the excuse to fire him was a blessing in disguise.
Now with Ward, it looks like Gulutzan all over again. Is he a good coach... I don't know. I don't think many (if any) of us are really qualified to say.
Going back before the current core, the former core allegedly ran over Playfair in a way that some insiders indicated was inappropriate. They apparently disrespected him because he only played 21 NHL games or something like that. Sutter even said it was a very difficult group to coach. Keep in mind that members of the core from that period were the ones that prepared the current core for their duties.
The country club culture has permeated over several years.