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Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
Tiger and Ali are both disputed IMO.
Ali is the most influential athlete of all time, but I’m not sure he’s the Greatest of Boxer all time.
Interestingly enough a name that’s probably being missed here is Floyd Mayweather - he’s a jerk but he’s undefeated and it’s tough to argue 50-0.
If needing to be the unanimous GOAT in your sport is a criteria then The Mt Rushmore should probably be
Tom Brady
Serena Williams
Wayne Gretzky
Pele
And I think even those last two are arguable
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Well I think Woods had far tougher competition than Nicklaus. As for Ali I think it’s a bit tough to divorce influence and fame from the actual sports results. I agree on results no boxer stands out that much, but Ali’s fame necessitates his inclusion. On Serena no doubt she’s the best female tennis player of all time, but is she that much better than Graf or Martina to be a no doubt GOAT? Unsure on that. Pele probably does make it but I have to bow out there because of my lack of knowledge about the history of soccer.
I do think for team sports Brady is pretty much alone. He’s at the top on both regular season and post season records. You have people like Jordan or Russel who get the post season but not the regular season or Kareem who’s the opposite. Gretzky dominates so many awards/records, but only four cups on only stacked teams doesn’t go well. If he won that one in LA it would be a different thing but he didn’t.