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The inconsistencies were choices made in the 3rd movie, completely independent from TLJ (except for JJ spending far too much time listening to whinny fan boys). The TLJ & TFA were compatible stories with a good 3rd part, they just never got it. I also don't think TLJ was particularly original, it's just that it basically played out the narrative of ESB & RoTJ in one act to leave space for a different ending, which was smart, if they had given us another trilogy with the same story, same ending... it would have been very weak narratively.
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It left almost no conclusion left to tell. So much was wrapped up in was was supposed to be a middle act that there was very little of intrigue left.
Snoke was done, Rey given a supposed identity, Luke's story ended..
Some call that genius, some call that not spacing out the story adequately to keep the audience invested in the next chapter. Never seen a trilogy that was planned that left so little meat on the bone for the third act.
Were the apologetic leaps in ROS lame? Yes, some were (and sadly necessary because there was not much to anticipate otherwise). But were many things about TLJ itself done poorly to begin with? Definitely.
Maybe PTSD Luke is bold, but it didn't have people weeping and cheering in their seats like Mandalorian Luke did. Clearly Mandalorian did something right and more emotionally compelling, and also respectful to the character and lore. You can't abandon the character you developed over a saga without showing in a convincing way how you got there. I wasn't convinced by a couple flashbacks. Luke who fought to the bitter end to redeem Darth effin Vader wouldn't strike down his sister's son in his sleep based on a bad feeling. And even when he came around to helping the others, his dialogue wasn't Luke dialogue. Came across like someone else entirely. I've said this many times but the new trilogy was more of a gritty, flashy Disney story wrapped in SW visuals, but was devoid of the heart and soul of SW.
A lot of the spirit died with Episode 7 even though it was an enjoyable movie, as evidenced by the drop in the box office numbers. There was something missing, and these directors try as they may just didn't understand Star Wars at its core I don't think. The people running the show now have a much better grasp and it is evident by the reception it is receiving.