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Old 12-27-2020, 07:41 PM   #55
Oling_Roachinen
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Lots to unpack here so here goes.

Stepan - wrong side of 30 and In decline.
If only they made this trade a couple months ago....Wrong side of 30 is definitely worrisome for long-term contracts that extend beyond a year but this is a single season as a player just turned 30. Brodie's the same age, also in decline, and he just signed for 20M.
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This is not the type of player you give up a second round pick for. Yes, $2m in real salary is palatable, however his high cap hit limits the number of teams that can take him on so a very limited market.
A center who had one bad season? Why is he not the type of player you trade for? If he bounces back to anywhere near his 2018 form there will be a lot of teams willing to trade a 2nd round pick (or more) for him at the deadline. Especially a 2nd round pick that will likely be higher than the Columbus one they got. As for limited market, with his salary so low compared to his actual cap-hit even a cash conscious team like the Sens would be wiling to retain salary (and cap-hit) so his 6.5M cap hit becomes 1.5M by the trade deadline and 0.75M if the Sens keep half the remaining. Makes him one of the easier to acquire 2nd line depth centers should he bounce back.
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This reeks of overpayment. Given the number of teams looking to shed money and the caliber of players that would be available that would be better than stepan, that second round pick could have secured a better player to help the sens. I’m not sure if it was posted here or not, but how does stepan get more than Nate Schmidt? Not even close in terms of who the better player is.
Are you trying to compare a foward making 2M (pro-rated for the shortened season maybe?) to a defenseman with 27M left owing? What's the point of that?
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Coyotes. They were going to move oel for pennies on the dollar. They needed to lose salary/real money. Going back to Schmidt, Vegas needed to shed cap to be compliant to sign pietrangelo. Different reasons for the desperation (financial vs cap) but dealing with a team who is facing financial pressures. We’ve become desensitized to the size of player salaries but $2m is nothing to sneeze at. Dorion could have held firm at a 3-4th rounder and probably get the deal done. $2m could have got you a superior player (haula for example without giving up a pick) and a second could have also got you a better player (Schmidt as a reference).
Haula had to be willing to sign with the Senators, this could be entirely be because they missed out on him.

Bringing up OEL, a player not moved because they weren't willing to take those pennies, who is making 60M more doesn't have anything to do with a 2M player.

The Senators need a warm body in that 2nd line center spot, whether it's one of their young players or White or someone, eventually that pushes someone out of the roster making ~1M anyways. While I'm the first to talk about actual cash on this board, 1M difference that either bolsters your team to make some noise or is likely traded before paying him that full extra million is penny pinching even by Sens standards.

This season will also be quick, a 2 week injury - or positive covid test - might normally mean nothing in the grande scheme of things during a normal season but could have teams scrambling much more when each game counts more. The Sens are probably thinking that worst case scenario they are able to trade him for a 3rd rounder at one point, move down a couple spots in the draft, give some leadership and player with NHL experience to help their young team for a couple extra grand. Best case scenario is he regains form and helps the team make noise, brings out the best in the young players, and/or is traded for more than a 2nd rounder.
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