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Originally Posted by Fuzz
ROS was backed into a corner by TLJ. I think a lot of the disappointment is that TFA setup a lot of stuff, it was all made irrelevant in TLJ, and ROS had nowhere to go, other than trying to create a 3 movie arc from the setup of one, teardown of another, and trying to write a conclusion. It was doomed to fail, and a lot of that is the fault of the decision made in TLJ.
I'd love to her a conversation of what Rian had envisioned was going to happen in the last installment, because he really didn't leave much to work with, and had rearranged the relationships built in TFA. So it's not so much that TLJ was full of bad ideas in isolation(thoguh there were many), but it destroyed any semblance of a rational logical story. You can't just kill of the bad guy in the second act, and expect it to make sense in the 3rd. TFA may have been fan service, but at least it left pieces to build on.
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Snoke wasn't the bad guy in TLJ he was a foil, to allow Kylo bolster his bad cred. It's the exact opposite of the originals where Vader looked like the big bad early on, and softened later as he became redeemable and the Emperor was the real big bad. When your making sequels things that look the same but are the opposite are very good, you want it to mirror the old story, but if your not doing something different, why bother.
The last movie had limitless possibilities because they broke out of the pacing of the original trilogy. IMO it was setup for a final one on one show down, absent the old masters, absent the fleets. I think TLJ would have been very strong narratively, if there had been an ending to the trilogy where the resistance had nobody left to fight and the order had nobody left to fight, but Rey still had to put Kylo down to make it all stop, it would have left the galaxy looking to a different future not the empire, not the new republic. It would have left the galaxy in a very different place the RoTJ, you would have would have had the battle end without remnants of the empire floating around re-amassing into the First Order. Leaving the galaxy in a different place should have been the purpose of making another trilogy. Now we're just in a place where lots of people are happy to join up with whatever crazy dark side crap the next clone of the emperor comes up with, and lots of people are waiting to fight back, and they could just make another sequel trilogy all over again that would fall flat again, unless they are brave enough to try and tell a different story.