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#-3 · 12-19-2020, 10:09 AM

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I also don't get Everyones take on TLJ. It's objectively the best of the sequel movies,

The Force Awakes was fan fiction, it wasn't a stand alone original narrative. It was what it was I was happy with it but there was no reason for that movie to exist.

The Return of Skywalk is almost prequels bad, I've had it on my list on Disney+ for a year and it still remains the only Star Wars movie I have only watched once, I've tried a couple of times get 2 or 3 minutes in and decide it's not worth it. The just did everything wrong, The grand army coming out of nowhere was frustrating, going back to a dead villain rather than the villain they spent two movies building up, the horses on the deck of a star destroyer. I've only watched it once but from memory was all bad, (I think the only people to blame are fan boys like Captain Crunch they didn't give TLJ a fair reading because it wasn't exactly what they expected, they got into JJs head that he was great and Rian was terrible, and when you start telling writer directors they are great and they can ignore other aspects of the universe they are engaging with this is the garbage you get).

How the heel was the Last Jedi supposed to treat Luke, he ran away and hid when a weakened Empire was re-emerging. This wasn't Obi-Wan choosing to protect children instead of fight, this wasn't an aged Yoda who had been defeated and went into hiding from an Empire that was ascendant. This was Mary-Sue Luke, who blew up the Death Star his first day in the rebellion, or surviving his first full fledged fight with a sith that he wasn't ready over, hitting the first bit of adversity in his life (omg your teenage nephew doesn't like you, congrats you and 70% of other uncles) giving up. That's where the text starts, and it's Star Wars, so what do you do, go back to your routes rip of Samurai tropes, have an disgruntled old master (now luke) sitting on a mountain that needs to redeem himself by being pulled back into action by an eager young upstart. Luke's story was exactly what Star Wars demanded.

It's time for fan boys to stop blaming Disney or Rian or whoever and take responsibility for shouting down that trilogy until it became a muddled mess.

12-19-2020, 10:09 AM	#1008
#-3 #1 Goaltender Join Date: Mar 2008 Exp:	Spoiler! I also don't get Everyones take on TLJ. It's objectively the best of the sequel movies, The Force Awakes was fan fiction, it wasn't a stand alone original narrative. It was what it was I was happy with it but there was no reason for that movie to exist. The Return of Skywalk is almost prequels bad, I've had it on my list on Disney+ for a year and it still remains the only Star Wars movie I have only watched once, I've tried a couple of times get 2 or 3 minutes in and decide it's not worth it. The just did everything wrong, The grand army coming out of nowhere was frustrating, going back to a dead villain rather than the villain they spent two movies building up, the horses on the deck of a star destroyer. I've only watched it once but from memory was all bad, (I think the only people to blame are fan boys like Captain Crunch they didn't give TLJ a fair reading because it wasn't exactly what they expected, they got into JJs head that he was great and Rian was terrible, and when you start telling writer directors they are great and they can ignore other aspects of the universe they are engaging with this is the garbage you get). How the heel was the Last Jedi supposed to treat Luke, he ran away and hid when a weakened Empire was re-emerging. This wasn't Obi-Wan choosing to protect children instead of fight, this wasn't an aged Yoda who had been defeated and went into hiding from an Empire that was ascendant. This was Mary-Sue Luke, who blew up the Death Star his first day in the rebellion, or surviving his first full fledged fight with a sith that he wasn't ready over, hitting the first bit of adversity in his life (omg your teenage nephew doesn't like you, congrats you and 70% of other uncles) giving up. That's where the text starts, and it's Star Wars, so what do you do, go back to your routes rip of Samurai tropes, have an disgruntled old master (now luke) sitting on a mountain that needs to redeem himself by being pulled back into action by an eager young upstart. Luke's story was exactly what Star Wars demanded. It's time for fan boys to stop blaming Disney or Rian or whoever and take responsibility for shouting down that trilogy until it became a muddled mess.