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Originally Posted by calculoso
What I don’t understand is why a “guaranteed income” or “guaranteed employment “ automatically means that all industries will be nationalized and our existing choices will automatically disappear. Why would rationing bread become a thing?
We have a consumer society. To me, giving the consumers more money would help things - more money to buy things... results in greater demand... results in more businesses to supply that demand... results in more jobs to staff those businesses. Seems win win win to me.
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So if you take out climate change it doesnt have to but if you want/have to use state control to limit our effect on the biosphere then you need to reduce new things, capitalism is essentially unable to continue without the ability to grow and climate change needs stasis, we need to stop growing, we need to have less stuff, I drive a truck, as do 5 or 6 other guys on my street, but none of us actually need to have a truck except for maybe once or twice a month, we should all be riding bikes or using micro compact cars and having a community truck for the rare occasions we actually need to move a couch, but then the auto industry falls apart and 200,000 workers get canned in Detroit and Windsor.