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Originally Posted by bizaro86
Yes. The quotes pseudo-reality posted all have to do with Christ being the fulfillment of the law. In the old Testament sin was covered only by sacrifice of an animal, whereas the New Testament teaches that Christ's death was the sacrifice for all. That is what it means when he says he came not to abolish the law but fulfill it. So sin still exists, and people will always do bad things. But forgiveness is available through mercy and belief in Jesus (vs the prescriptive sacrifices of the old testament).
There are lots of examples of Jesus saying that the Old Testament law was superceded. For example in Matthew chapter 12, he explains that working on the sabbath is permitted, and both his disciples gather food and he heals someone on the Sabbath.
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I’ve always understood the Bible (both testaments) to be stories and allegories more so than gospel truth. Even if you take that position there is still some crazy that you just need to ignore. Ultimately though there is a core belief - that God gave his only son in sacrifice for our sins so that we could earn eternal life (paraphrasing).
That’s where I have trouble. Jesus may have been persecuted for years but only suffered physically for a few days. God has allows or caused millions upon millions of people, including children, to suffer much worse and much longer. According to the Trinity Jesus and God are one so there was never any doubt that Jesus would return to heaven. So thirty odd years of life and a few days of dying out of eternity doesn’t seem such a large sacrifice that we should all be devotees.
I wish there was a church that focused only on the stories and life lessons from the bible, as oral tradition, and skipped all the deity stuff.