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Originally Posted by Bingo
Its a pandemic.
Industries are a mess.
I don't feel the need to call it criminal to say the league needs a further adjustment given the climate.
But you can. I'm good with that.
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That isn’t what I’m saying at all, and to be honest I don’t think your approach of trying to put words in my mouth is making your position any more credible so I’d appreciate if you would refrain from doing so. The league saying they need further adjustments (whether it’s true or just posturing) isn’t illegal, but them using it as an excuse to lock the players out would be.
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I provided an article that states that they over stated the chances of fans or the number of fans in their negotiations, and that wasn't good enough for you.
That's fine too.
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You provided an opinion piece defending the league’s position, written by someone who as I’ve made you aware also literally defended the players’ position the next day and continues to point out how the courts may not agree with the league’s position. That being the case, why would you expect that article to change anyone’s mind?
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You're pro player ... and when people dig in they're not going to be swayed, which is also fine ... don't need to sway you.
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Oddly enough I’m the one who is actually defending the owners for not being as incompetent as yourself and others are trying to frame them as. I’m not trying to convince you that the players are perfect or that the owners are bad, I’m trying to help you understand how the league’s actions suggest they aren’t acting in good faith, how from a business perspective there are more reasons for them to be doing what they’re doing beyond the current terms being unmanageable and that IMO those factors will likely work against them in a court of law.
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But for many of us the numbers don't add up, and given the 50/50 nature of the original pre-pandemic CBA it only makes sense to get something closer to that in order to play.
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It would appear the league disagrees, otherwise they wouldn’t have signed that deal because the numbers that you claim don’t add up were the same in July as they are today.