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Old 12-01-2020, 08:01 PM   #3295
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Originally Posted by Erick Estrada View Post
Because 0.0000000001% of the female population looks like that while muscle head males are not that rare. I had no issues with Ellie and Dina. In fact I found Dina the only likeable character in the game. That stuff never bothered me in Mass Effect and doesn't now. They throw in the transgender kid okay whatever. They killed of Joel who was the best character of the first game. Sucks but okay I can live with that if it has to further the story. Then they throw in Abbey who they kind of purposely made her out to be this cartoonish female to evoke more gender questions and even worse they may you play through half the game as her at a place in the game where they wanted you to hate her. I get that their idea was that you would play through her story and go from hating her to feeling sympathetic but I never felt sympathetic towards her as she was just as spiteful as the faceless enemies in the game you had to kill to progress.

I feel instead of making a great game they focused on making a game that would press the buttons of gamers. I play games to press the buttons I don't want some lesson in gender politics or a lesson from a writers who clearly have some resentment towards the human race. As a person that loved the first game I just wanted another great game like the that. They decided to make a sharp turn into politics and I play games to escape that ####. To make things worse they lost focus on the core gameplay elements and added filler levels of wandering around collecting stuff, encountering clickers, then evil humans. 1,2,3 next, 1,2,3 again. That's my opinion and if you loved the game then good for you as I'm not going to dispute why you liked it.
The developers threw everything at the player to try to get you to like(or at least not hate) her in the end and it totally worked for me. I acknowledge that for others it didn't but I didn't think her appearance would be one of the reasons. Just seems ridiculous to me.

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I don't really want to wade into this too far because I didn't really care that much about Abbey's physique, but you get that these are different things, right? That it depends on the entertainment product in question? Barrett Wallace can look like Barrett Wallace in Final Fantasy 7. Stick him in The Division 2, and it becomes just a smidge jarring.

Suppose that in The Last of Us, the first game, Joel looked like prime bodybuilding age Arnold Schwarzennegger. You don't think that would have been a little weird, given the atmosphere and tone of the game?
Erick was the one to bring up and compare it to the movies and Terminator. Was just following along.

If Joel had 24/7 access to a gym with food and was hell bent on getting revenge on the soldier that killed Sarah then sure why not lol.

Also I think you guys are exaggerating how big/unrealistic/rare her build was. For instance she seems around the same size as Cara Dune from the Mandalorian.
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